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[Strawbale] straw bale in Spain

At the moment, there has been no dificulty getting permission to build legally in Spain. You have to go through the same process as any other home. Here in Spain, this requires having the signature of an Architect and a Technical architect. Since they take "responsability" for the design it usually gets approved. The problem, is that there are very few architects with any SB experience, and "newbies" tend to be a bit afraid and make very conservative designs not necessarily thinking in a "straw" way...It is not a cheap process.
The other possibility is to ask in your local area what the requirements/limitations are for building a "caseta de campo" (a shed), which can sometimes be done without an architect, but the requirements can vary from town to town, being possible something anywhere from 9m2 to 35 m2 depending on where you live.
There are now quite a few legal SB homes in spain, including a Bed and Breakfast in the province of Teruel. There are both loadbearing and Infill buildings legal.
What is more difficult is insuring the building, but if you are planning on building it yourself you are not required to insure it, although you cannot sell it until after 10 years (the minimum insurance for new homes)...A very few homes have been able to be insured, but only Infill buildings, not loadbearing.
It is VERY helpful to learn Spanish if you wish to be able to work with anything legal in Spain. 

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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?

Any other advice much appreciated.

Thanks
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:34:10 +0000
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   Hello,
As far as I know the best place to look for straw bales is the Guadalajara region.They have them of good quality and quantity, but you'll have to look and shop around for good consistency. 
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
From: sarah@eticas...
To: strawbale@amper....muni.cz
Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain

I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
Any other advice much appreciated.

Thanks
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:00 +0100
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Where are you planning on building as bales are available in most areas of Spain. What you might want to do is to talk to local farmers and ask them to set their baler to make them more dense than they normally would. I know somebody who did that in Aragon (Prov Teruel) and was very happy with the results. I am planning to build also in Prov Teruel but near the border with Cataluna and have been doing a bit of bale research if that would be useful to you. Some areas where there are large areas put down to wheat make those giant round bales mostly, but you can usually find a farmer or two using the traditional baler. Basically if you have the time, talking to people before the harvest, and explaining what are looking for is a big bonus. 
Good luck, and be in touch if I can be any help.

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
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Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain

I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
Any other advice much appreciated.

Thanks
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:41:28 +0000
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hi peter
there is an active email list especially for strawbale builders in spain: 
you can find more info at http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/paja

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Hi

If you speak Spanish http://www.casasdepaja.org/ is a good site.

Building straw bale legally in Spain is difficult because the material
is not  been approved by the national architects association.  (or had
not been in 2006 when I last checked)

I think that a couple of legal straw bale buildings have been approved
individually but it is an expensive process.

Building illegally in hidden away places is possible and much more
common for straw bale in Spain.

Spanish building and planning law is different than UK (not better or
worse just different) and it helps to understand it.

If any one has more up to date info on approval of SB is Spain I would
very much like to know as I want to do a legal SB build in Spain.

Patrick




Quoting Sarah Phillips <sarah@eticas...>:


I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?

Any other advice much appreciated.

Thanks






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