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RE: [Strawbale] Earth roof



Hi

 

Where are you my friend who is a gardener says look in local walls and gutters for plants that are already growing locally in thin soil it will proably be a sedum.  30mm of soil with 10mm of gravel is not much heaver than tiles probably less than 100kg /m2 when soaked maybe some one else knows the max load on bales.

 

Roofing membranes.

 

The range of options  depend on the pitch of the roof and how sure you want to be that it absolutely will not leak and how long you want it to last.

 

If you are doing anything other that a full commercial 25 year guarantee job (see at the bottom) you can save money and worry, by using a “cold deck construction”.  You do this by introducing a ventilated space below whatever deck (probably plywood) that you are going put the membrane on this will enable any moisture from “SMALL” leaks and condensation to dry out.  Keep the insulation and final moisture barrier below the ventilated space.  This form of construction also allows you replace the green bit of the roof without letting water in to the house if you have a disastrous leak.

 

If you use cold deck construction and a pitched roof about 25 degrees you can really cut corners and use any old scrap plastic (even bin liners) nailed on like tiles and protected by old carpet.     If you want to spend a bit more (which I would recommend) use a semi rigid studded membrane (something like oldroyd  see http://www.safeguardeurope.com/pdf_datasheets/oldroyd_xv_datasheet.pdf) or anything else you can find that is cheap.  The studs trap water and stop the earth slipping off.

 

On a flat roof use anything elastic there are several rubber membranes available or pond liners.  As long as you prepare and protect the deck to avoid snags and splinters and protect from sunlight you can use any flexible membrane.  Avoid things like builders DPM that are not elastic because unless you use lots of old carpet as movement layers they may be damaged when the roof moves. 

 

Few of these things are environmentally sound but if you don’t nail the flat roof membrane at all and only fix the pitched roof membrane at the top edge at least it can be recycled.

 

Sorry that there is not a simple answer but if you let me know the roof pitch and what insulation that you are using I can send you a sketch.

 

Patrick

 

Note: Spec for a commercial guarantee job

 

         18mm plywood deck.

Loose laid Sarnavap 2000 polyethylene vapour control layer.

SarnaTherm EPS-E CFC and HCFC Extruded polystyrene thermal insulation board from Kingspan Insulation Ltd.

Sarnafil TG66-15 Flexible Polyolefine single ply membrane loose laid with all overlaps hot air welded.  FLL approved for use without an additional root barrier.

SarnaLite roof lights.

Sarnafil AquaDrain 20mm recycled polyethylene drainage and protection board.

65mm of lightweight growing medium formulated to the suit the local environment.

Nature Mat® vegetation blanket consisting of a variety of flowering drought resistant sedum, succulents and mosses installed over the prepared growing medium for an ‘instant’ green roof.

Entire roof assembly, including the greening element, guaranteed by Sarnafil Ltd.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


From: strawbale-bounces@amper....muni.cz [mailto:strawbale-bounces@amper....muni.cz] On Behalf Of Amit Kvint
Sent: 29 September 2006 08:25
To: Strawbale@amper....muni.cz
Subject: [Strawbale] Earth roof

 

Hi All,

I am about to finish a small room (12sqm) SB, and interested in knowledge of ¨live roofs¨, should be light because its a load bearing construction with clay plaster, any ideas for light soil roof? also what kind of water proof membrane should I use?

Amit