[Strawbale] Post and Beam

Mon Sep 13 16:57:18 CEST 2010

Just to help with responses, as I understand it from reading the posts the inquieries are about "post and beam"  SB building, not just non-load bearing structures.  In which case the options are much more limited to either putting the bales inside the p&b structure, on the outside, or inbetween the posts.  There is also the portal frame system which is very well adapted for strawbale construction but is not post and beam. 

There are some very good books out now that describe the different post and beam methods of SB building, check Amazon etc. 

 I would avoid if possible using an architect that is unfamiliar with this process unless they are very open and willing to do a lot of reasearch BEFORE building your house, and willing to work in collaberation with you or others for advice/research. Not all architects are that minded., prefering to take the reigns and do it how they feel it should be done regardless.

good luck, let us know how you get on. I will try and post some titles of good books to get you started, or maybe others on this list can do likewise.

Paul Sheraton

> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:31:41 +0200
> From: asbn at baubiologie...
> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Post and Beam
> 
> Dear Jure, Michel and all other non-loadberaing builders
> 
> In my workshops I have listed 7 (8) different non-loadbearing-systems, which
> are used in Austria and  as far as I know  in Europe:
> 
> 1) exterior strawbale-wall with direct plaster on the outside, construction
> inside
> typical example:
> http://www.baubiologie.at/europe/austria/austria.html?id=280
> 
> 2) system S-house, which is nearly 1) but with big bales on the outside and
> a ventilated wooden facade, fixed with special screws
> http://www.baubiologie.at/europe/austria/austria.html?id=282
> 
> 3) interior strawbale-wall (normally directly plastered on the inside) with
> an outside construction (wood or plaster on plaster-boards)
> 
> 4) system GREB (France), as can be seen detailed on french websites
> 
> 5) CST-system (Cellule Sous Tensions) by Tom Rijven, as is described in his
> book (Between Earth and Straw) and on his website
> 
> 6) StrohTec-system, which we established in 1999 and was built in Austria
> and Germany more than 100times the last ten years in variations, a classical
> infill-system, strawbales between posts, covered with structural boards or
> diagonal wood on both sides of the posts/beams
> typical example: 
> http://www.baubiologie.at/europe/austria/austria.html?id=120
> or
> http://www.baubiologie.at/europe/austria/austria.html?id=268
> 
> 7) a new modular system called system|haus|bau, which we developed last year
> as you can see on:
> http://www.systemhausbau.at
> or
> http://www.baubiologie.at/europe/austria/austria.html?id=309
> 
> 8) The Modcell-system in UK is another modular system, which uses cellulose
> or strawbale as an infill-insulation-material, but there are not many
> details available...
> 
> Mit lieben Grüßen
> Herbert Gruber
> -- 
> asbn - austrian strawbale network
> Österreichisches Netzwerk für Strohballenbau
> 3720 Ravelsbach, Baierdorf 6
> Email: asbn at baubiologie...
> http://www.baubiologie.at
> 
> 
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > The question of Jure about post and beam is worth posting again.
> > As a builder in the near future I am also looking for answers.
> > 
> > As far as I know there are basically 2 post and beam methods for building with
> > bales within the non-load bearing method.
> > Or as infill, like an adapted Segal method, or as they do like S-house in
> > Austria; enclosing the timber structure with boards and stag the bales around
> > the house in a running bond.
> > I would not like to have a board inside the house to plaster. It does not
> > function like a strawbale for indoor climate, is more costly etc...
> > 
> > Most of us are interested in strawbale building but we are not architects,
> > contractors etc... just people who want to build this way and look for the
> > right people to assist, advise.
> > 
> > Here in Slovenia such buildings are almost not existing and if, they are done
> > without much experience.
> > 
> > How could we have more information, that we could pass on to an architect
> > without strawbale experience?
> > 
> > Are there plans available that can be adapted?
> > 
> > Is there maybe "post and beam software" available for strawbale building that
> > could be used by a local architect?
> > 
> > Or we could maybe use an architect from abroad, just to make the basic plans
> > and have the other plans (construction plans for electrician, plumber etc..)
> > done by a local one.
> > 
> > In any case, here in Slovenia we need more then one architect to build a
> > house. The other we must use to do the engineering plans to get approval.
> > 
> > If there are professionals, architects, or people out there with experience
> > that could advise, please do, we would be very grateful.
> > 
> > With greetings from Slovenia,
> > 
> > Michel.
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