[Strawbale] Strawbale Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2
Amit Kvint
amitkvint at gmail...
Wed Dec 17 15:10:39 CET 2008
Hey again,
This again varies depending on your location, like a regular building, I
would say as a general rule that the costs are the same like building a
regular house, the difference is that you get more for the same money in
terms on insulation, if you'd had to try and get the same R values building
"normally" you'd probably end up paying more than on SB house.
It all depends again - there is more labour involved especially if you mud
render, so if you do a lot on your own you can cut expenses cut down
significantly, but as in all houses bath room, windows, carpentry,
etc..which are expensive are the same you'd pay for a "regular" built house.
Hope it was helpful,
Amit
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Sarah Phillips <sarah at eticas...> wrote:
> re:straw bales Spain
> Thanks everyone for your replies, I will take a look at the recommended
> websites.
>
> I am going to be building my SB house close to Alicante (about 40km
> inland), I think I have found my plot of land and have a couple of
> architects lined up who are interested in my project.
>
> My husband is hoping to do a lot of the work himself but at the moment we
> are trying to gather as much information to help us as possible.
>
> Has anyone got a rough break down of the costs involved in building a SB
> house?
>
> Gracias
>
> Sarah
>
>
> 2008/12/17 <strawbale-request at amper....muni.cz>
>
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>>
>> 1. straw bale in Spain (Rikki Nitzkin)
>> 2. Re: straw bale in Spain (Patrick O'neill)
>> 3. Re: Straw bales in Spain (valentina)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Rikki Nitzkin <rikkinitzkin at earthlink...>
>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:16:34 +0100
>> Subject: [Strawbale] straw bale in Spain
>> At the moment, there has been no dificulty getting permission to build
>> legally in Spain. You have to go through the same process as any other home.
>> Here in Spain, this requires having the signature of an Architect and a
>> Technical architect. Since they take "responsability" for the design it
>> usually gets approved. The problem, is that there are very few architects
>> with any SB experience, and "newbies" tend to be a bit afraid and make very
>> conservative designs not necessarily thinking in a "straw" way...It is not a
>> cheap process.
>>
>> The other possibility is to ask in your local area what the
>> requirements/limitations are for building a "caseta de campo" (a shed),
>> which can sometimes be done without an architect, but the requirements can
>> vary from town to town, being possible something anywhere from 9m2 to 35 m2
>> depending on where you live.
>>
>> There are now quite a few legal SB homes in spain, including a Bed and
>> Breakfast in the province of Teruel. There are both loadbearing and Infill
>> buildings legal.
>>
>> What is more difficult is insuring the building, but if you are planning
>> on building it yourself you are not required to insure it, although you
>> cannot sell it until after 10 years (the minimum insurance for new
>> homes)...A very few homes have been able to be insured, but only Infill
>> buildings, not loadbearing.
>>
>> It is VERY helpful to learn Spanish if you wish to be able to work with
>> anything legal in Spain.
>>
>> Rikki Jennifer Nitzkin
>> Coordinator of the Spanish Strawbale Network (www.casasdepaja.org)
>> casasdepaja at yahoo...
>>
>> rikkinitzkin at earthlink...
>> 0034 657 33 51 62
>> Aulás, Lleida
>>
>> "Tenemos el Derecho y la Responsabilidad de Crear el Mundo en que Queremos
>> Vivir"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El 17/12/2008, a las 12:00, strawbale-request at amper....muni.cz escribió:
>>
>> Send Strawbale mailing list submissions to
>>> strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>
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>>> http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> strawbale-request at amper....muni.cz
>>>
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>>> strawbale-owner at amper....muni.cz
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of Strawbale digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Straw bales in Spain (Sarah Phillips)
>>> 2. Re: Straw bales in Spain (peter weijnen)
>>> 3. Re: Straw bales in Spain (paul david)
>>> 4. Re: Straw bales in Spain (Simon Blackbourn)
>>> 5. Re: Straw bales in Spain (Patrick O'neill)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
>>> From: "Sarah Phillips" <sarah at eticas...>
>>> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <149163de0812160933o1cb3dd4co62359d072b10d1a9 at mail....com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>
>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
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>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:34:10 +0000
>>> From: peter weijnen <peter_weijnen at hotmail...>
>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>> Message-ID: <BAY116-W26F06D5AC55FF5F4B7CFE092F50 at phx...>
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>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As far as I know the best place to look for straw bales is the
>>> Guadalajara region.They have them of good quality and quantity, but you'll
>>> have to look and shop around for good consistency.
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
>>> From: sarah at eticas...
>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>
>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
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>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:00 +0100
>>> From: paul david <werdnast at hotmail...>
>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
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>>>
>>> Where are you planning on building as bales are available in most areas
>>> of Spain. What you might want to do is to talk to local farmers and ask them
>>> to set their baler to make them more dense than they normally would. I know
>>> somebody who did that in Aragon (Prov Teruel) and was very happy with the
>>> results. I am planning to build also in Prov Teruel but near the border with
>>> Cataluna and have been doing a bit of bale research if that would be useful
>>> to you.
>>> Some areas where there are large areas put down to wheat make those giant
>>> round bales mostly, but you can usually find a farmer or two using the
>>> traditional baler. Basically if you have the time, talking to people before
>>> the harvest, and explaining what are looking for is a big bonus.
>>> Good luck, and be in touch if I can be any help.
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
>>> From: sarah at eticas...
>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>
>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:41:28 +0000
>>> From: "Simon Blackbourn" <piemanek at gmail...>
>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>> To: "European strawbale building discussions"
>>> <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <65b196650812161241v2e583782oaabff5c4bbad0e95 at mail....com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> hi peter
>>>
>>> there is an active email list especially for strawbale builders in spain:
>>> you can find more info at http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/paja
>>>
>>> simon (list admin)
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:56:22 +0000
>>> From: "Patrick O'neill" <patrick at frdata....uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>> Message-ID: <20081217095622.8nbqlisime8goock at 82...195.128.132>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes";
>>> format="flowed"
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> If you speak Spanish http://www.casasdepaja.org/ is a good site.
>>>
>>> Building straw bale legally in Spain is difficult because the material
>>> is not been approved by the national architects association. (or had
>>> not been in 2006 when I last checked)
>>>
>>> I think that a couple of legal straw bale buildings have been approved
>>> individually but it is an expensive process.
>>>
>>> Building illegally in hidden away places is possible and much more
>>> common for straw bale in Spain.
>>>
>>> Spanish building and planning law is different than UK (not better or
>>> worse just different) and it helps to understand it.
>>>
>>> If any one has more up to date info on approval of SB is Spain I would
>>> very much like to know as I want to do a legal SB build in Spain.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Sarah Phillips <sarah at eticas...>:
>>>
>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>>
>>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Strawbale mailing list
>>> Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>> http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale
>>>
>>>
>>> End of Strawbale Digest, Vol 37, Issue 1
>>> ****************************************
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Patrick O'neill" <patrick at frdata....uk>
>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:54:24 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] straw bale in Spain
>>
>> Rikki
>>
>> Thanks for some more up to date information. My problem in 2006 was
>> finding an architect who would sign off a load bearing self build, SB
>> building.
>> The architect that I was working with was keen but would only use
>> technical infomation from the regional body.
>>
>> Dos anyone have a list of informed architects?
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Rikki Nitzkin <rikkinitzkin at earthlink...>:
>>
>> At the moment, there has been no dificulty getting permission to build
>>> legally in Spain. You have to go through the same process as any other
>>> home. Here in Spain, this requires having the signature of an
>>> Architect and a Technical architect. Since they take "responsability"
>>> for the design it usually gets approved. The problem, is that there
>>> are very few architects with any SB experience, and "newbies" tend to
>>> be a bit afraid and make very conservative designs not necessarily
>>> thinking in a "straw" way...It is not a cheap process.
>>>
>>> The other possibility is to ask in your local area what the
>>> requirements/limitations are for building a "caseta de campo" (a
>>> shed), which can sometimes be done without an architect, but the
>>> requirements can vary from town to town, being possible something
>>> anywhere from 9m2 to 35 m2 depending on where you live.
>>>
>>> There are now quite a few legal SB homes in spain, including a Bed and
>>> Breakfast in the province of Teruel. There are both loadbearing and
>>> Infill buildings legal.
>>>
>>> What is more difficult is insuring the building, but if you are
>>> planning on building it yourself you are not required to insure it,
>>> although you cannot sell it until after 10 years (the minimum
>>> insurance for new homes)...A very few homes have been able to be
>>> insured, but only Infill buildings, not loadbearing.
>>>
>>> It is VERY helpful to learn Spanish if you wish to be able to work
>>> with anything legal in Spain.
>>>
>>> Rikki Jennifer Nitzkin
>>> Coordinator of the Spanish Strawbale Network (www.casasdepaja.org)
>>> casasdepaja at yahoo...
>>>
>>> rikkinitzkin at earthlink...
>>> 0034 657 33 51 62
>>> Aulás, Lleida
>>>
>>> "Tenemos el Derecho y la Responsabilidad de Crear el Mundo en que
>>> Queremos Vivir"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El 17/12/2008, a las 12:00, strawbale-request at amper....muni.cz
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Send Strawbale mailing list submissions to
>>>> strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>
>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>> http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale
>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>> strawbale-request at amper....muni.cz
>>>>
>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>> strawbale-owner at amper....muni.cz
>>>>
>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>> than "Re: Contents of Strawbale digest..."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Straw bales in Spain (Sarah Phillips)
>>>> 2. Re: Straw bales in Spain (peter weijnen)
>>>> 3. Re: Straw bales in Spain (paul david)
>>>> 4. Re: Straw bales in Spain (Simon Blackbourn)
>>>> 5. Re: Straw bales in Spain (Patrick O'neill)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
>>>> From: "Sarah Phillips" <sarah at eticas...>
>>>> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <149163de0812160933o1cb3dd4co62359d072b10d1a9 at mail....com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>>
>>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:34:10 +0000
>>>> From: peter weijnen <peter_weijnen at hotmail...>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>> Message-ID: <BAY116-W26F06D5AC55FF5F4B7CFE092F50 at phx...>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know the best place to look for straw bales is the
>>>> Guadalajara region.They have them of good quality and quantity, but
>>>> you'll have to look and shop around for good consistency.
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
>>>> From: sarah at eticas...
>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:00 +0100
>>>> From: paul david <werdnast at hotmail...>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>> Message-ID: <BAY101-W280F4819645E318AC0A8CEC3F50 at phx...>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where are you planning on building as bales are available in most
>>>> areas of Spain. What you might want to do is to talk to local
>>>> farmers and ask them to set their baler to make them more dense than
>>>> they normally would. I know somebody who did that in Aragon (Prov
>>>> Teruel) and was very happy with the results. I am planning to build
>>>> also in Prov Teruel but near the border with Cataluna and have been
>>>> doing a bit of bale research if that would be useful to you.
>>>> Some areas where there are large areas put down to wheat make those
>>>> giant round bales mostly, but you can usually find a farmer or two
>>>> using the traditional baler. Basically if you have the time, talking
>>>> to people before the harvest, and explaining what are looking for is
>>>> a big bonus.
>>>> Good luck, and be in touch if I can be any help.
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100
>>>> From: sarah at eticas...
>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>> Explore the seven wonders of the world
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>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:41:28 +0000
>>>> From: "Simon Blackbourn" <piemanek at gmail...>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>> To: "European strawbale building discussions"
>>>> <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <65b196650812161241v2e583782oaabff5c4bbad0e95 at mail....com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> hi peter
>>>>
>>>> there is an active email list especially for strawbale builders in
>>>> spain:
>>>> you can find more info at
>>>> http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/paja
>>>>
>>>> simon (list admin)
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>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:56:22 +0000
>>>> From: "Patrick O'neill" <patrick at frdata....uk>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>> Message-ID: <20081217095622.8nbqlisime8goock at 82...195.128.132>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes";
>>>> format="flowed"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> If you speak Spanish http://www.casasdepaja.org/ is a good site.
>>>>
>>>> Building straw bale legally in Spain is difficult because the material
>>>> is not been approved by the national architects association. (or had
>>>> not been in 2006 when I last checked)
>>>>
>>>> I think that a couple of legal straw bale buildings have been approved
>>>> individually but it is an expensive process.
>>>>
>>>> Building illegally in hidden away places is possible and much more
>>>> common for straw bale in Spain.
>>>>
>>>> Spanish building and planning law is different than UK (not better or
>>>> worse just different) and it helps to understand it.
>>>>
>>>> If any one has more up to date info on approval of SB is Spain I would
>>>> very much like to know as I want to do a legal SB build in Spain.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting Sarah Phillips <sarah at eticas...>:
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Strawbale mailing list
>>>> Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>> http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> End of Strawbale Digest, Vol 37, Issue 1
>>>> ****************************************
>>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________
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>>>
>>> Send all messages to:
>>> Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: valentina <valentina at ara-b...>
>> To: European strawbale building discussions <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:46:30 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain
>> One very good thing in Spain (catalunya-valencia) is that you can find
>> rice-straw that is a good quality of straw for building
>> Every year the quality change....because of different growth-water in the
>> field...so you really must check your supplier year by year..
>> At the moment there are no expert supplier as you can find in
>> germany....but we are working at the european level to set a sistem of local
>> certification...
>>
>> We made already 4 legal-houses and1little community building....to do so
>> we use information of tests from other country and a lot of talks with
>> pubblic officers...
>>
>> Now the law of building has change and in a way is a better change for
>> straw bale because allows much more innovation...on the other hand the
>> pubblic offcials ara more insecure because they still don't know the new
>> procedures...so they are more careful and ask for much more accuracy....
>>
>> For insurance...if you use a wood structure or another "traditional"
>> structure you can get insurance.....the simple one...if you want the
>> insurance that allows you to sell the house before ten years have been
>> passed...than you have much more trouble and you may need to go trough a
>> quiet complex procedure of testing and controls....
>>
>> un saludo, valentina
>>
>> arq. valentina maini
>> arquitectos ara B sccl.
>> www.ara-b.org-valentina at ara-b...
>> t.f. +34 933197631
>> ronda sant pere 58, pralB 08010 barcelona
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El 16/12/2008, a las 18:33, Sarah Phillips escribió:
>>
>> I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?
>>>
>>> Any other advice much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>> European strawbale building discussion list
>>>
>>> Send all messages to:
>>> Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>
>>> Archives, subscription options, etc:
>>> http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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