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Re: Odp: [strawbale] a technical question about foundations



Hi Rikki
My house here in Yorkshire is built on clay. It's 300 years old, is built of stone, and has no artificial foundation. By this I mean that if you dig below ground level by 150mm the stone of the walls stops and there is only the clay underneath. The stones at the bottom of the wall are wider by 150mm either side of the wall, thus enlarging the surface area that takes the weight of the stone wall above. In a climate like ours, there is virtually no risk of problems associated with shrinkage due to drying. Many hundreds of thousands of our oldest houses are built this way.
So if you're building with straw walls, which are about 80% less weight than stone, there is no problem about building from the clay upwards, it's a wonderful foundation. But as Jolien says, make sure you raise the straw itself up from ground level. There is no need to use concrete or to dig trenches, just take away the growing part of the earth and go down to something solid, probably only a few inches.......Lucky you!

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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Odp: [strawbale] a technical question about foundations



Thanks for the advice.

Actually, I have read "A strawbale house" and "Earth floors" by the Steens, but i missed the bit about the clay slip.

What really worried me is building on land that is pure clay.  A non-expert said that I could have problems with the whole house moving on a clay site, a i don´t know if the rubble trench foundation will be enought to avoid that.  . .




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love , RIKKI
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From: "henryk czachor"
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Subject: Odp: [strawbale] a technical question about foundations
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:48:50 +0100
Hi,
Clay shrinks when drying and swells when wetting. that why it should be mixed with other materials. I advise you to read The straw bale house by Steen A.S. Steen B Bainbridge D ,1994 White River Junction, Vermont, pp182-187. You can find there some practical notices concerning adobe floor making. Amoung others I found " European tradition calls for a mix of 5 parts sand to one part of milky consistency clay slip made from soil that is 50% clay". If you want I can send the copy of those pages.
Henryk
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Od: rikki nitzkin
Do: strawbale-l@eyfa...
DW: stawbale@crest... ; absteen@dakotacom...
Data: 11 lutego 2002 22:58
Temat: [strawbale] a technical question about foundations
Hi!
I have been thinking about changing my plans of making my strawbale hut on pilars, to doing the extra work of leveling the ground, and doing a "rubble trench" foundation with an adobe floor.
After doing some soil tests, I have discovered that my land doesn't have A Lot of Clay. It IS Clay, 100%. Does anyone know if this will cause me problems?
Also, the clay comes out of the ground quite clumpy. Is there any best way to "unclump" it so as to use it for the floor and walls? Can I use clay slip instead of dry clay for this?
please forward this message to anyone who can advise me.
love , RIKKI
"Understanding is born from humility, not from the pride of knowledge."
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