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Re: [Strawbale] Alternative tightening materials



On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 01:14:52 -0500, David Neeley <dbneeley@gmail...> wrote:


On a well detailed straw bale in which you have paid attention to air sealing, don't you then run the opposite problem--having inadequate air changes?

Would it not in such case be prudent to also install an energy recovery ventilator?

On 03/06/2011 11:02 PM, RT wrote:

strawbale construction methodology is inherently conducive to yielding air-tight buildings


I don't think that there is any question of the necessity of paying careful attention to air-sealing
with any well-insulated building, whether it has straw in the walls or not.

Any air-leakage point is a point where bulk moisture from conditioned interiors will find its way into the envelope materials and condense somewhere within the cross section.

Once that moisture is in liquid form, it becomes more difficult (than if it were in vapour phase) for that moisture to get out again even if the skin materials are vapour permeable. (ie vapour permeable is not liquid permeable).

So what you have is moisture hanging around for a long time and like teenagers with too much time on their hands, trouble (in the case of building materials, microbial activity) is sure to ensue.

If one is relying upon air leakage through the envelope materials to provide the necessary ventilation air changes, then that ventilation air is going to be passing through mould/mildew/crud infested materials before entering the indoor air environment -- certainly not a scenario that is conducive to creating healthful living space.

So if air-tight construction is a necessity with well-insulated buildings to preserve the integrity of the materials and avoid potential deleterious health consequences to the building's occupants, then it necessarily follows that a ventilation strategy be implemented as well to ensure the necessary air changes to provide good indoor air quality.

And since the minimum (ie the worst that the Codes will allow) ventilation rate requires that the entire volume of air inside the house (air which you have spent energy to condition) be changed a minimum of ~8.4 times a day ... (ie you need to the empty the house of air that has been heated/humidified to 18-21 degC /~20 - 25% RH and replace it with fresh outdoor air (which might be at minus 20 or minus 40 degC and containing almost no moisture) that has to be warmed up to 18 - 21 degC at least eight and a half times every day ... and since any energy recovery ventilator worth considering will recover 75 to 95 percent of the energy from the stale air exhaust stream, I think that the choice is a no-brainer (and a Code requirement here in Ontario).


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