Re: [Strawbale] results of sb houses across europe pls

[Sebastien Hubert <sebastien.hubert@mc2000...>]

Hello,

I did respond to this message before but it seems there was a problem...

We are using more or less this method except that we don't use OSB at 
the inside but earth.

From the outside to the inside :
Agepan/double SLS structure-straw/earth

You can find some pictures on the Grappaille website (Grappaile is the 
promoting strawbale association for the Walloon region) :
http://www.grappaille.be/forumgrappaille/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23&start=90

There are also some pictures on my blog : http://blog.paille.be

Those websites are only in french sorry ;-)

Seb
http://www.paille.be



Henk Van Aelst wrote:
> Neale,
>
> I think google can translate.
>
> A local Carpenter can make your wooden structure. 
> Use an undoubled skelet: for example:
> Two SLS / FJI / 2 planches / laminated wood / open joist... It can be pre
> fabricated but doesn't need to be. A lot of my do it yourself clients work
> with planches or sls.
>
> Henk
>
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: strawbale-bounces@amper....muni.cz
> [mailto:strawbale-bounces@amper....muni.cz] Namens Neale Brickwood
> Verzonden: maandag 12 juli 2010 14:51
> Aan: European strawbale building discussions
> Onderwerp: Re: [Strawbale] results of sb houses across europe pls
>
> Thanks Henk, thats very interesting and exactly the system i was  
> thinking of. Do you know if there is an english translation website  
> with some technical detail re ASBG?
>
> It would destroy my embodied energy if i had to import the panels to  
> the UK but i suppose if the timber is coming from Austria anyway that  
> would help
>
> Regards
>
> Neale
>
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> On 12 Jul 2010, at 09:01, Henk Van Aelst wrote:
>
>   
> > Neale
> >
> > Use a vernished OSB with vapour tape at the inside and a celit 4D or  
> > 3D or a
> > Agepan DWD at the outside. If you like a little fire protection than  
> > use the
> > French Dip liming methode before you place the bales and finish the  
> > OSB with
> > Fermacell.
> > Look on www.ecoforum.be on techniques by strawbales to the ASBG  
> > Austrian way
> > of building.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Henk
> >
> >
> > ECOLOGISCH  ARCHITECTENBUREAU  HENK VAN AELST  BVBA
> >
> > Henk Van Aelst
> > TF 0032 / 15 22 51 43
> > henk@henkvanaelst...
> > Hertstraat 52
> > Gsm 0032 473 66 17 92
> > www.henkvanaelst.be
> > 2590 Berlaar
> > BTW BE 480.118.920
> > www.ecoforum.be
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: strawbale-bounces@amper....muni.cz
> > [mailto:strawbale-bounces@amper....muni.cz] Namens Neale Brickwood
> > Verzonden: maandag 12 juli 2010 10:17
> > Aan: European strawbale building discussions
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Strawbale] results of sb houses across europe pls
> >
> > Thanks dave. Obviously more research to do!!
> >
> > Neale
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 11 Jul 2010, at 22:13, Dave Howorth <dave@howorth....uk> wrote:
> >
> >     
> > > On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 22:35 +0000, Neale Brickwood wrote:
> > >
> > >       
> > > > I'm thinking of a dry build using a timber frame to provide the
> > > > structure and dry enclosure with the straw being inserted from the
> > > > inside (in the dry) timber cladding outside, plasterboard inside. I
> > > > know it dosnt stack up with the purist principles but will provide
> > > > substantial Co2 savings by omitting brick, block and insulation and
> > > > obviously sand and cement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I presume i'd need a breathable vapour barrier between the timber
> > > > structure and the cladding which would allow the straw to breathe.  
> > > > Do
> > > > you know if any one has done any U value calcs for this type of  
> > > > build
> > > > or do you forsee any problems?
> > > >         
> > > Neale,
> > >
> > > The term "breathable vapour barrier" is an oxymoron. Breathable means
> > > "vapour permeable". You probably mean a watertight, airtight barrier.
> > >
> > > Straw bales are traditionally coated with lime or clay plaster for  
> > > two
> > > main reasons:
> > > -1- it provides fire resistance
> > > -2- it provides an airtight barrier that helps the straw function
> > > effectively as insulation
> > >
> > > Gaps between between bales and separate fireproof layers are known to
> > > act as chimneys in fires and these can increase the spread of flame.
> > >
> > > Having said all that, you might want to look at the S-House design.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Dave
> > >
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