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Re: [Strawbale] results of sb houses across europe pls



Thanks derek. A bit more research on my part required then!!

Neale
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On 11 Jul 2010, at 23:51, Derek Roff <derek@unm...> wrote:

I agree with Dave, that plaster on bales is very important for the
reasons mentioned.  I would add another major reason, and a couple of
lesser reasons:

-3- a well-bonded plaster-bale-plaster sandwich functions as a
stressed-skin composite panel, significantly improving all of the
wall's structural properties, especially shear, in-plane, and
out-of-plane load bearing capacities.

-4- plaster skins offer significantly more protection from mice,
insects, and other critters, which can otherwise be smelly,
destructive, and/or annoying.

-5- sound insulation is dramatically increased.

Derek

--On Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:13 PM +0100 Dave Howorth
<dave@howorth....uk> wrote:

On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 22:35 +0000, Neale Brickwood wrote:

I'm thinking of a dry build using a timber frame to provide the
structure and dry enclosure with the straw being inserted from the
inside (in the dry) timber cladding outside, plasterboard inside. I
know it dosnt stack up with the purist principles but will provide
substantial Co2 savings by omitting brick, block and insulation and
obviously sand and cement.


I presume i'd need a breathable vapour barrier between the timber
structure and the cladding which would allow the straw to breathe.
Do
you know if any one has done any U value calcs for this type of
build
or do you forsee any problems?

Neale,

The term "breathable vapour barrier" is an oxymoron. Breathable means
"vapour permeable". You probably mean a watertight, airtight barrier.

Straw bales are traditionally coated with lime or clay plaster for two
main reasons:
-1- it provides fire resistance
-2- it provides an airtight barrier that helps the straw function
effectively as insulation

Gaps between between bales and separate fireproof layers are known to
act as chimneys in fires and these can increase the spread of flame.

Having said all that, you might want to look at the S-House design.

Cheers, Dave

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