Herbert, André, Peter, ...I sent our last test results directly to André. Herbert, I think you know the Austrian activities very well but let me speak for the German results and approvals:
In Germany we did about 15 lambda-Value tests (thermal conductivity) according to EN 12667 since Mai 2003 (Attention! Herbert used accidentally the term 'R-Value' which is not the conductivity but the thermal resistance). We found a variety of values mainly depending on density, humidity and fibre orientation and probably fibre length (type of harvester-thresher).
Our best value was lambda 10,dry= 0,038 W/mK and our worst lambda10,23/80=0,082 W/mK. We found conversion factors from dry to wet between 1,07 to 1,2.
We tested densities (dry) from 80/ to 116 kg/m3. We tested wheat and rye.The official approved "Baustrohballen" can be calculated perpendicular to the fibre direction with lambda=0,052 W/mK (max. lambda dry=0,044 W/mK+ 20% addition) and in fibre direction with lambda=0,08 W/mK (max. lambda dry=0,067 W/mK + 20% addition).
Our current goal is not the maximum optimization of the lambda value but the maximum optimization of the usability of local bales which are produced under normal agriculture conditions. For this it is more important to provide a calculation lambda value which covers the variety of occuring lambda values to avoid failing of some bale charges (the distributor has to sign for the compliance of the properties).
I think we should have a session at the ESBG in Belgium in August to this topic where we first present the current knowledge and the country results to each other. After heaving heard the international results and approaches we should of course discuss, e.g. lambda value optimization, fibre direction, humidity, density and strategy, ...
And to avoid another confusion: "Baustrohballen" are of course "normal" straw bales and I think there is not a difference to normal austrian bales (of course we saw differences in past between bales from different countries depending on the baler, on the acre, on the type of corn, on the type of cultivation,.... "Baustrohballen" are produced directly on the fields with normal balers (common ones in Germany: Welger ap 53,63 and 630 to 830, or different types of John Deere or Claas,...)
I'm keen to see the new Austrian test reports and how you managed to optimize the lambda Value (pressing method?) and how you want to ensure the thermal quality while the production of the bales.
And last but not least: Straw is not equal to straw, testing procedures not equal to testing procedures and countries approaches not equal to ...
And please have in Mind: Most of the international R-Value-Tests (now I'm speaking about the resistance) shows much higher recalculated lambda-Values >0,06 W/mk as the Germans and Austrians are talking about, on more reason for me, not to count on the best values.
Dirk Fachverband Strohballenbau Deutschland e.V. c/o Dirk Scharmer In de Masch 6 D-21394 Suedergellersen Tel. 0049 4131- 727804 Fax. 0049 4131- 727805 Internet: www.fasba.de Email: ds@fasba... asbn schrieb:
Peter, this is wrong... These are not the official R-values for Germany. The official R-Value for usual strawbales in Germany and Austria is 0,045 W/mK. These are the R-Values for "Baustrohballen", special bales tested under special circumstances. And it is an old but wrong conclusion, that the worse R-values are morerealistic. We developed and tested those special strawbales for the building-industry(for prefabricated walls and roofs) in 2008/2009 again in Austria and had much better results in 2 different official testing-institutions: 0,047 W/mK (inluding the 20% addition) although there is no test-paper available yet (we are still optimizing...). The difference between "normal" strawbales and "Baustrohballen" is the testing-procedure according to EU-building-codes, but it is possible to press those building-bales for prefabrication in a whole different way, than Dirk did. It's all about pressing the bales in the best way. So we will have CE-certified "Baustrohballen" with nearly the same good R-values as the R-values for normal strawbales in Austria and Germany this summer. Best wishes, Herbert