[Strawbale]strawbales and earthquakes, rammed earth

c'Lanne moroney cam at dds...
Fri Jan 28 09:13:49 CET 2005 

there's alot of testing and earthquake proof
detailing of strawbale-building been done in
california, a good book being "buildings of earth
and straw", by bruce king.

and on the ramed earth question:
i have done some workshops and research on this
material and just spent 6 weeks in south africa
preparing soil-mixes. there is someone in the
hague, netherlands, who designs/builds with this
material technique [stampleembouw] and i am
certain he was on this list....
the earth centre in cornwall has rammed earth
walls, simliar climate NL. stabilisation of the
earth with concrete, bitumen [neither
desirable],lime, extra clay and so forth...are
ways in which to minimise the weathering, and
like strawbales, its all in the detailing!
i myself am an architect and would like to get
involved in using this material in NL...as well
as strawbaling and other low-embodied energy and
non-toxic building blocks!

c'Lanne



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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> From: "Brand J.H.J."
>>>>> <J.H.J.Brand at phys....nl>
>>>>> To: "'strawbale at amper....muni.cz'"
>>>>> <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Strawbale]straw and
>>>>> earthquakes
>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:50:44 +0100
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Luca,
>>>>>
>>>>> i know little about strawbale houses but
>>>>> one thing is clear: they are being
>>>>> pulled together by strings. Unlike regular
>>>>> houses, this is both a bit
>>>>> flexible and can withstand pulling forces.
>>>>> It might also be interesting to
>>>>> see how much energy gets absorbed by the
>>>>> bales. to give you an idea: a
>>>>> spring typically keeps resonating when you
>>>>> excite it but a shockabsorber
>>>>> turns the motion into heat. I think a
>>>>> strawbale is more of a shockabsorber
>>>>> then a spring.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the quick analysis of an engineer
>>>>> but i dont have much experience
>>>>> with strawbales yet. I'm sure you will find
>>>>> more info about it though
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> DeeTale or Joost
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>>> Van: Lu [mailto:yom at tiscali...]
>>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 18:29
>>>>> Aan: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> Onderwerp: [Strawbale]straw and earthquakes
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>>>>>
>>>>> hallo everybody, my name is Luca, i post
>>>>> from Italy and I'm a new subscriber
>>>>> of this list.
>>>>> I'm intrested in strawbale building for  a
>>>>> study for my university; I'd like
>>>>> to include in it some considerations about
>>>>> how buildings made by straw react
>>>>> to earthquakes: are they sismic-safe? If
>>>>> anybody could give me some
>>>>> information about this topic, or where to
>>>>> find them, I'd be very grateful!
>>>>> thanx in advance
>>>>> greetings luca
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:12 +0100
>>>>> From: "c'Lanne moroney" <cam at dds...>
>>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> Subject: [Strawbale]rammed earth in NL
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for people who are working with
>>>>> rammed earth in the netherlands - any
>>>>> pointers?
>>>>>
>>>>> c'Lanne
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> From: "Arno van Haren"
>>>>> <arnovanharen at wanadoo...>
>>>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale]rammed earth in NL
>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:58:09 +0100
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing what with this earth?
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno van Haren
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "c'Lanne moroney" <cam at dds...>
>>>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:27 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Strawbale]rammed earth in NL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for people who are working with
>>>>> rammed earth in the netherlands - any
>>>>> pointers?
>>>>>
>>>>> c'Lanne
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:22:09 +0100
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale]rammed earth in NL
>>>>> From: adriaan van sandwijk
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>>>>> on 27-01-2005 11:58, Arno van Haren at
>>>>> arnovanharen at wanadoo... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Doing what with this earth?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Arno van Haren
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "c'Lanne moroney" <cam at dds...>
>>>>> > To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:27 AM
>>>>> > Subject: [Strawbale]rammed earth in NL
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm looking for people who are working
>>>>> with
>>>>> > rammed earth in the netherlands - any
>>>>> pointers?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > c'Lanne
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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>>>>> I suspect that rammed earth is the method
>>>>> of constructing walls with dry
>>>>> earth: a casing with wooden planks is made
>>>>> like when jou are about to pour
>>>>> concrete, the casing is then filled with
>>>>> layer after layer of earth, each
>>>>> carefully packed together by ramming them
>>>>> with heavy tools specially made
>>>>> for this job. The result is a sturdy thick
>>>>> wall that in dry climates kan
>>>>> stand for thousends of years. I beleive
>>>>> this methode was widely spread in
>>>>> ancient china. Or am I totaly wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> greatings Adriaan
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. I know of no projects of this kind
>>>>> anywhere but I am interested to hear
>>>>> more about it.
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> From: velthuis a+s <velthuis.as at home...>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale]rammed earth in NL
>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:58:42 +0100
>>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Adriaan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Your description is right; Martin Rauch
>>>>> (from Austria)has published a
>>>>> beautiful book called "Rammed Earth"
>>>>> which deals with some 20 of his built and
>>>>> unbuilt projects.
>>>>> I visited some of them (near Feldkirch
>>>>> Austria) and they all look great.
>>>>> Being an architect, I would love to build
>>>>> with the material, but I
>>>>> hardly know anything about it.
>>>>> What kind of earth is suitable (can it be
>>>>> found in the Netherlands),
>>>>> what detailing under dutch conditions etc.
>>>>> So here is another one who's interested in
>>>>> any projects/contacts in
>>>>> Holland.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerrit Velthuis
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 27-jan-05 om 13:22 heeft adriaan van
>>>>> sandwijk het volgende
>>>>> geschreven:
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > I suspect that rammed earth is the method
>>>>> of constructing walls with
>>>>> > dry
>>>>> > earth: a casing with wooden planks is
>>>>> made like when jou are about to
>>>>> > pour
>>>>> > concrete, the casing is then filled with
>>>>> layer after layer of earth,
>>>>> > each
>>>>> > carefully packed together by ramming them
>>>>> with heavy tools specially
>>>>> > made
>>>>> > for this job. The result is a sturdy
>>>>> thick wall that in dry climates
>>>>> > kan
>>>>> > stand for thousends of years. I beleive
>>>>> this methode was widely spread
>>>>> > in
>>>>> > ancient china. Or am I totaly wrong?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > greatings Adriaan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > p.s. I know of no projects of this kind
>>>>> anywhere but I am interested
>>>>> > to hear
>>>>> > more about it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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