[Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC - eta
c'Lanne moroney
cam at dds...
Thu Jun 3 13:07:48 CEST 2004
dear isbcc-goers!
I'd be very much interested in being kept up to
date on the discussions of the ETA-group [if it
forms] as wont be attending the conference
myself.
would it be possible to take notes, compile and
post on this list?
c'Lanne moroney, amsterdam
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>>>>> 1. Topic for ISBBC (Dipl.-Ing. Architekt
>>>>> Dirk Scharmer)
>>>>> 2. Re: Topic for ISBBC (valentina)
>>>>> 3. AW: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>> (Dipl.-Ing. Architekt Dirk Scharmer)
>>>>> 4. Re: AW: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>> (valentina)
>>>>>
>>>>> --__--__--
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> From: "Dipl.-Ing. Architekt Dirk Scharmer"
>>>>> <info at wand4...>
>>>>> To: <Strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 16:47:58 +0200
>>>>> Organization:
>>>>> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Architekturb=FCro_Wand4?=
>>>>> Subject: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear ISBBC-participants,
>>>>> I would like to suggest to talk about the
>>>>> european technical approval
>>>>> (ETA) of strawbales as a building material.
>>>>> There're some interesting
>>>>> news in this area. Some from germany and
>>>>> some really important from
>>>>> austria (I hope there'll be someone from
>>>>> there, who`s able to present
>>>>> them). And I hope there will be some news
>>>>> from other european country's
>>>>> to this subject!
>>>>>
>>>>> For us from the german strawbale
>>>>> association FSB it's the most important
>>>>> question yet, how much attention, money and
>>>>> time we spent to get the
>>>>> ETA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anybody out there, who is
>>>>> interested in this topic too?
>>>>>
>>>>> My personal aim is to get the ETA as quick,
>>>>> simple and cheap as possible
>>>>> because in germany we needs it to build
>>>>> more sb-houses without staying
>>>>> with one leg in prison ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2003 the FSB applied for a the german
>>>>> general building approval for
>>>>> strawbales, we made a couple of tests all
>>>>> with success, accept the
>>>>> molder test.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the passing of this test will be
>>>>> the main gate, for strawbales
>>>>> to get the approval. For this topic there
>>>>> is very interesting study
>>>>> which is made in austria from Thomas
>>>>> Zelger. I hope there will an
>>>>> austrian, who`s able to give us abrif
>>>>> overview about this work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets build an international team on isbbc
>>>>> to face this challenge!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> _______________________________
>>>>> Fachverband Strohballenbau Deutschland
>>>>> e.V
>>>>> Dipl.- Ing. Architekt
>>>>> Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> Auf der Rübekuhle 10
>>>>> D-21335 Lüneburg
>>>>> Tel. 0049-4131- 727804
>>>>> Fax. 0049-4131- 727805
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --__--__--
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> From: valentina <valentina at ara-b...>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:48:26 +0200
>>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Dirk,
>>>>> here Valentina from arquitectos ara B
>>>>> sccl
>>>>> i'm not going to the ISBCC.....but i'm
>>>>> strongly interested in this
>>>>> theme!!!
>>>>> we are now starting a building in Teruel
>>>>> (spain), we have collaborated
>>>>> with Iñaki Urkia three yaers ago for the
>>>>> strawbal house in Alicante,
>>>>> other strawbale projects coming....and is
>>>>> quiet horrible to work "out"
>>>>> of "regulations".......
>>>>>
>>>>> two years ago we pubblised a book about
>>>>> ecological materials and
>>>>> construction and in that occasion we
>>>>> studied the arizona and new
>>>>> mexico, straw bale codes.......
>>>>>
>>>>> so i will be really happy to participate in
>>>>> this team......
>>>>> so i hope we can talk about it even if it's
>>>>> impossible to get to the
>>>>> ISBBC....:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, valentina maini
>>>>> www.ara-b.org
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/06/2004, at 16:47, Dipl.-Ing.
>>>>> Architekt Dirk Scharmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Dear ISBBC-participants,
>>>>> > I would like to suggest to talk about the
>>>>> european technical approval
>>>>> > (ETA) of strawbales as a building
>>>>> material. There're some interesting
>>>>> > news in this area. Some from germany and
>>>>> some really important from
>>>>> > austria (I hope there'll be someone from
>>>>> there, who`s able to present
>>>>> > them). And I hope there will be some news
>>>>> from other european country's
>>>>> > to this subject!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For us from the german strawbale
>>>>> association FSB it's the most
>>>>> > important
>>>>> > question yet, how much attention, money
>>>>> and time we spent to get the
>>>>> > ETA.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is there anybody out there, who is
>>>>> interested in this topic too?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My personal aim is to get the ETA as
>>>>> quick, simple and cheap as
>>>>> > possible
>>>>> > because in germany we needs it to build
>>>>> more sb-houses without staying
>>>>> > with one leg in prison ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In 2003 the FSB applied for a the german
>>>>> general building approval for
>>>>> > strawbales, we made a couple of tests all
>>>>> with success, accept the
>>>>> > molder test.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I guess the passing of this test will be
>>>>> the main gate, for strawbales
>>>>> > to get the approval. For this topic there
>>>>> is very interesting study
>>>>> > which is made in austria from Thomas
>>>>> Zelger. I hope there will an
>>>>> > austrian, who`s able to give us abrif
>>>>> overview about this work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lets build an international team on isbbc
>>>>> to face this challenge!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> > _______________________________
>>>>> > Fachverband Strohballenbau Deutschland
>>>>> e.V
>>>>> > Dipl.- Ing. Architekt
>>>>> > Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> > Auf der Rübekuhle 10
>>>>> > D-21335 Lüneburg
>>>>> > Tel. 0049-4131- 727804
>>>>> > Fax. 0049-4131- 727805
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
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>>>>> > Send all messages to:
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --__--__--
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> From: "Dipl.-Ing. Architekt Dirk Scharmer"
>>>>> <info at wand4...>
>>>>> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
>>>>> Subject: AW: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:59:15 +0200
>>>>> Organization:
>>>>> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Architekturb=FCro_Wand4?=
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Valentina!
>>>>> Two of my collegues visit Jerez from june
>>>>> the 20th to july the 20th to
>>>>> build loadbaring sb-house. Perhaps you
>>>>> would like to visit them for
>>>>> further exchange about the ETA. But sure in
>>>>> addition of that we should
>>>>> stay in contact by email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>> Dirk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________
>>>>> Architekturbüro WAND4
>>>>> Dipl.- Ing. Architekt
>>>>> Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> Auf der Rübekuhle 10
>>>>> D-21335 Lüneburg
>>>>> Tel. 04131- 727804
>>>>> Fax. 04131- 727805
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: strawbale-admin at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> [mailto:strawbale-admin at amper....muni.cz]
>>>>> Im Auftrag von valentina
>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2004 17:48
>>>>> An: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Dirk,
>>>>> here Valentina from arquitectos ara B
>>>>> sccl
>>>>> i'm not going to the ISBCC.....but i'm
>>>>> strongly interested in this
>>>>> theme!!!
>>>>> we are now starting a building in Teruel
>>>>> (spain), we have collaborated
>>>>> with Iñaki Urkia three yaers ago for the
>>>>> strawbal house in Alicante,
>>>>> other strawbale projects coming....and is
>>>>> quiet horrible to work "out"
>>>>> of "regulations".......
>>>>>
>>>>> two years ago we pubblised a book about
>>>>> ecological materials and
>>>>> construction and in that occasion we
>>>>> studied the arizona and new
>>>>> mexico, straw bale codes.......
>>>>>
>>>>> so i will be really happy to participate in
>>>>> this team......
>>>>> so i hope we can talk about it even if it's
>>>>> impossible to get to the
>>>>> ISBBC....:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, valentina maini
>>>>> www.ara-b.org
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/06/2004, at 16:47, Dipl.-Ing.
>>>>> Architekt Dirk Scharmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Dear ISBBC-participants,
>>>>> > I would like to suggest to talk about the
>>>>> european technical approval
>>>>> > (ETA) of strawbales as a building
>>>>> material. There're some interesting
>>>>> > news in this area. Some from germany and
>>>>> some really important from
>>>>> > austria (I hope there'll be someone from
>>>>> there, who`s able to present
>>>>> > them). And I hope there will be some news
>>>>> from other european
>>>>> > country's to this subject!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For us from the german strawbale
>>>>> association FSB it's the most
>>>>> > important
>>>>> > question yet, how much attention, money
>>>>> and time we spent to get the
>>>>> > ETA.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is there anybody out there, who is
>>>>> interested in this topic too?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My personal aim is to get the ETA as
>>>>> quick, simple and cheap as
>>>>> > possible
>>>>> > because in germany we needs it to build
>>>>> more sb-houses without staying
>>>>> > with one leg in prison ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In 2003 the FSB applied for a the german
>>>>> general building approval for
>>>>>
>>>>> > strawbales, we made a couple of tests all
>>>>> with success, accept the
>>>>> > molder test.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I guess the passing of this test will be
>>>>> the main gate, for strawbales
>>>>>
>>>>> > to get the approval. For this topic there
>>>>> is very interesting study
>>>>> > which is made in austria from Thomas
>>>>> Zelger. I hope there will an
>>>>> > austrian, who`s able to give us abrif
>>>>> overview about this work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lets build an international team on isbbc
>>>>> to face this challenge!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> > _______________________________
>>>>> > Fachverband Strohballenbau Deutschland
>>>>> e.V
>>>>> > Dipl.- Ing. Architekt
>>>>> > Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> > Auf der Rübekuhle 10
>>>>> > D-21335 Lüneburg
>>>>> > Tel. 0049-4131- 727804
>>>>> > Fax. 0049-4131- 727805
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> > European strawbale building
>>>>> discussion list
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Send all messages to:
>>>>> > Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Archives, subscription options, etc:
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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e
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> European strawbale building discussion
>>>>> list
>>>>>
>>>>> Send all messages to:
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --__--__--
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> From: valentina <valentina at ara-b...>
>>>>> Subject: Re: AW: [Strawbale]Topic for
>>>>> ISBBC
>>>>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 18:11:19 +0200
>>>>> To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> Reply-To: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again Dirk!
>>>>> well we should make a tour of
>>>>> workshops!!!......we are planning one to
>>>>> build a loadbearing sb-house in
>>>>> Teruel....more or less at the same time
>>>>> this summer.........
>>>>> let's see how we can do it :-)
>>>>> so we keep in touch..:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> all the best, valentina
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/06/2004, at 17:59, Dipl.-Ing.
>>>>> Architekt Dirk Scharmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hello Valentina!
>>>>> > Two of my collegues visit Jerez from june
>>>>> the 20th to july the 20th to
>>>>> > build loadbaring sb-house. Perhaps you
>>>>> would like to visit them for
>>>>> > further exchange about the ETA. But sure
>>>>> in addition of that we should
>>>>> > stay in contact by email.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Greetings
>>>>> > Dirk
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________
>>>>> > Architekturbüro WAND4
>>>>> > Dipl.- Ing. Architekt
>>>>> > Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> > Auf der Rübekuhle 10
>>>>> > D-21335 Lüneburg
>>>>> > Tel. 04131- 727804
>>>>> > Fax. 04131- 727805
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> > Von: strawbale-admin at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> >
>>>>> [mailto:strawbale-admin at amper....muni.cz]
>>>>> Im Auftrag von valentina
>>>>> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2004 17:48
>>>>> > An: strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> > Betreff: Re: [Strawbale]Topic for ISBBC
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dear Dirk,
>>>>> > here Valentina from arquitectos ara B
>>>>> sccl
>>>>> > i'm not going to the ISBCC.....but i'm
>>>>> strongly interested in this
>>>>> > theme!!!
>>>>> > we are now starting a building in Teruel
>>>>> (spain), we have collaborated
>>>>> > with Iñaki Urkia three yaers ago for the
>>>>> strawbal house in Alicante,
>>>>> > other strawbale projects coming....and is
>>>>> quiet horrible to work "out"
>>>>> > of "regulations".......
>>>>> >
>>>>> > two years ago we pubblised a book about
>>>>> ecological materials and
>>>>> > construction and in that occasion we
>>>>> studied the arizona and new
>>>>> > mexico, straw bale codes.......
>>>>> >
>>>>> > so i will be really happy to participate
>>>>> in this team......
>>>>> > so i hope we can talk about it even if
>>>>> it's impossible to get to the
>>>>> > ISBBC....:-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best wishes, valentina maini
>>>>> > www.ara-b.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 02/06/2004, at 16:47, Dipl.-Ing.
>>>>> Architekt Dirk Scharmer wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Dear ISBBC-participants,
>>>>> >> I would like to suggest to talk about
>>>>> the european technical approval
>>>>> >> (ETA) of strawbales as a building
>>>>> material. There're some interesting
>>>>> >> news in this area. Some from germany and
>>>>> some really important from
>>>>> >> austria (I hope there'll be someone from
>>>>> there, who`s able to present
>>>>> >> them). And I hope there will be some
>>>>> news from other european
>>>>> >> country's to this subject!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> For us from the german strawbale
>>>>> association FSB it's the most
>>>>> >> important
>>>>> >> question yet, how much attention, money
>>>>> and time we spent to get the
>>>>> >> ETA.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Is there anybody out there, who is
>>>>> interested in this topic too?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> My personal aim is to get the ETA as
>>>>> quick, simple and cheap as
>>>>> >> possible
>>>>> >> because in germany we needs it to build
>>>>> more sb-houses without staying
>>>>> >> with one leg in prison ;-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> In 2003 the FSB applied for a the german
>>>>> general building approval for
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> strawbales, we made a couple of tests
>>>>> all with success, accept the
>>>>> >> molder test.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I guess the passing of this test will be
>>>>> the main gate, for strawbales
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> to get the approval. For this topic
>>>>> there is very interesting study
>>>>> >> which is made in austria from Thomas
>>>>> Zelger. I hope there will an
>>>>> >> austrian, who`s able to give us abrif
>>>>> overview about this work.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Lets build an international team on
>>>>> isbbc to face this challenge!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> >> _______________________________
>>>>> >> Fachverband Strohballenbau Deutschland
>>>>> e.V
>>>>> >> Dipl.- Ing. Architekt
>>>>> >> Dirk Scharmer
>>>>> >> Auf der Rübekuhle 10
>>>>> >> D-21335 Lüneburg
>>>>> >> Tel. 0049-4131- 727804
>>>>> >> Fax. 0049-4131- 727805
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> >> European strawbale building
>>>>> discussion list
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Send all messages to:
>>>>> >> Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Archives, subscription options, etc:
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
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e
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> > European strawbale building
>>>>> discussion list
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Send all messages to:
>>>>> > Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Archives, subscription options, etc:
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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e
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> > European strawbale building
>>>>> discussion list
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Send all messages to:
>>>>> > Strawbale at amper....muni.cz
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Archives, subscription options, etc:
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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e
>>>>> >
>>>>>
__________________________________________________
__
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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