From jhollan at amper....muni.cz Fri Jul 27 20:05:01 2001 From: jhollan at amper....muni.cz (Jan Hollan) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Nlr-e]the Brno study on Internet? Message-ID: Thank you very much once more for the impressing presentation in Novy Liskovec on Tuesday 24. I believe it was a milestone in the bilateral cooperation and will turn into a milestone of the evolution of the Czech building standards. I wonder, if at least a part of the very interesting documents could be made available on Internet as well. At least that part, which comprises the booklet. Either as pdf or as html+bitmaps. Even in its present German version -- there are at least two experts (teachers from the Tech Uni Brno) I know, who would surely much regret they did not been there, who read German and who would support the whole project. And surely a lot of students would be interested in it. If it would be possible to make the documents available in another formats as well (as those ones used by insiders making the projects by various CADs, I do not understand them), still better. In principle, it could be a restricted-access site, available only by login and password, to prevent an uncontrolled spread of information. Or is it a completely silly idea? I would be proud to make an Internet site for it on a computer I supervise, http://amper.ped.muni.cz at the Fac. of Education of Masaryk Uni; there are at least 2 GB free for that purpose. It is the same computer where this www-mailinglist exists (I meant it for a public international communication over this project, however, it has remained empty up to now), and the other, members-only nrl-m as well. An advantage of the mailinglist against emailing to many addresses is, that the people who get the mail can modify their addresses and many other parameters themselves (including hiding the address and membership). And, of course, there is an www archive as well, so new members can easily read all previous information. When I have established those two mailinglist last time, I have added there a couple of addresses I knew. It should be easy for anybody to add him(her)self by a browser, of course I can do it as well, if asked. I believe, communicating by those lists would be a preferable way for the working group. With best regards, Jenik Hollan PS. I am sorry I don't send this letter of appreciation to Martin Treberspurg and Partners, knowing no addresses and being not successful with altavista this time. From +436644517559 at A1Plus... Sun Jul 29 14:24:12 2001 From: +436644517559 at A1Plus... (Alois Geisslhofer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:24:12 +0200 Subject: [Nlr-e]the Brno study on Internet? References: Message-ID: <015501c11831$c61da420$16322e3e@nb02> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0150_01C11842.85881240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jan, in principle it is possible to publish the report on Internet and it was = intended also to publish it on the E.V.A.-website. But there are some restrictions: 1.) it is now holiday time and not all colleagues dealing with this task = are in the office, so it needs some time. I also dont`t know in which = format the publishing is possible.=20 2.) it is the question of approval of the report by the financing = Austrian ministry of environement- we have to clarify if and when the = reports are free for publication. 3.) I think it would be better to wait on the public presentation in = Brno in September (as announced by Ms. Plockova- Ruzickova and Ms. Jana = Dr=E1palov=E1) with the mayor of Brno, the representatives of the = responsible ministries and institutions. It is better tp publish the = report after that event. 4.) From my point of view the work is successful, if we can agree with = the Czech side on the implementation of selected measures in a pilot = project. At the moment there are only a lot of ideas. Ms. Plockova- = Ruzickova wanted to check the costs together with Arch. Mandic. So I think we should wait on the results of the process and after the = decision for the implementation of a pilot project, the clarifying of = the financing of this we should publish this report. But nevertheless I think Mr.Lari will send you the report also by = e-mail, for an easier dissemination. The coordinates of the other architects are: Architekt Prof. DI. M.arch Georg W. Reinberg Lindengasse 39/10 A-1070 Wien Tel.: 5248280 architekt.reinberg@aon... Treberspurg & Partner =20 Architekt DI Dr. Martin Treberspurg =20 Penzingerstrasse 58 =20 A- 1140 Wien =20 Tel. 01 894 31 91 - 12 =20 Fax 01 894 31 91 - 15 =20 treberspurg@netway... Architekt Mag. Alexander Mandic Mezibransk=E1 17/1592 CZ-110 00 Praha 1 Tel/Fax 00420 2 2221 2000 E-Mail: atw.architects.prague@iol... Yours sincerely Alois Geisslhofer Energieverwertungsagentur - the Austrian Energy Agency (E.V.A.) Otto-Bauer-Gasse 6 A-1060 Wien - Vienna Austria Phone +43 (0)1 586 15 24 -33 Mobil: +43 (0) 664 4517559 Fax +43 (0)1 586 15 24 -40 e-mail: geisslhofer@eva....at Internet E.V.A.: http://www.eva.ac.at/ E.V.A. E-Mail News: http://www.eva.ac.at/abo.htm at home: aloisg@surfeu... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jan Hollan" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: [Nlr-e]the Brno study on Internet? >=20 >=20 > > ---------- > > Von: Jan Hollan[SMTP:JHOLLAN@AMPER...PED.MUNI.CZ] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juli 2001 21:05:01 > > An: nlr-e@amper....muni.cz > > Cc: schmidl@eva....at; lari@ping...; ruzickova@ceacr... > > Betreff: [Nlr-e]the Brno study on Internet? > > Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet. > >=20 > Thank you very much once more for the impressing presentation in Novy > Liskovec on Tuesday 24.=20 >=20 > I believe it was a milestone in the bilateral cooperation and will = turn > into a milestone of the evolution of the Czech building standards. >=20 > I wonder, if at least a part of the very interesting documents could = be > made available on Internet as well. >=20 > At least that part, which comprises the booklet. Either as pdf or as > html+bitmaps. Even in its present German version -- there are at least = two > experts (teachers from the Tech Uni Brno) I know, who would surely > much regret they did not been there, who read German and who would = support > the whole project. And surely a lot of students would be interested in = it. >=20 > If it would be possible to make the documents available in another = formats > as well (as those ones used by insiders making the projects by various > CADs, I do not understand them), still better. In principle, it could = be a > restricted-access site, available only by login and password, to = prevent > an uncontrolled spread of information. Or is it a completely silly = idea? >=20 > I would be proud to make an Internet site for it on a computer I > supervise,=20 > http://amper.ped.muni.cz=20 > at the Fac. of Education of Masaryk Uni; there are at least 2 GB free = for > that purpose. >=20 > It is the same computer where this www-mailinglist exists (I meant it = for > a public international communication over this project, however, it = has > remained empty up to now), and the other, members-only nrl-m as well. = An > advantage of the mailinglist against emailing to many addresses is, = that > the people who get the mail can modify their addresses and many other > parameters themselves (including hiding the address and membership). = And, > of course, there is an www archive as well, so new members can easily = read > all previous information.=20 >=20 > When I have established those two mailinglist last time, I have added > there a couple of addresses I knew. It should be easy for anybody to = add > him(her)self by a browser, of course I can do it as well, if asked. I > believe, communicating by those lists would be a preferable way for = the > working group. >=20 > With best regards, > Jenik Hollan >=20 > PS. > I am sorry I don't send this letter of appreciation to Martin = Treberspurg > and Partners, knowing no addresses and being not successful with = altavista > this time.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Nlr-e mailing list > Nlr-e@amper....muni.cz > http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/nlr-e=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0150_01C11842.85881240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Jan,
in principle it is possible to publish the report on Internet and = it was=20 intended also to publish it on the E.V.A.-website.
But there are some restrictions:
1.) it is now holiday time and not all colleagues dealing with this = task are in the office, so it needs some time. I also dont`t know = in which=20 format the publishing is possible.
2.) it is the question of approval of the report by the financing = Austrian=20 ministry of environement- we have to clarify if and when the reports are = free=20 for publication.
3.) I think it would be better to wait on the public presentation = in Brno=20 in September (as announced by Ms. Plockova- Ruzickova and Ms. Jana Dr=E1palov=E1) with the mayor of Brno, the = representatives=20 of the responsible ministries and institutions. It is better tp publish = the=20 report after that event.
4.) From my point of view the work is successful, if we can agree = with the=20 Czech side on the implementation of selected measures in a pilot = project.=20 At the moment there are only a  lot of ideas. Ms. Plockova- = Ruzickova=20 wanted to check the costs together with Arch. Mandic.
So I think we should wait on the results of the process and = after the=20 decision for the implementation of a pilot project, the clarifying of = the=20 financing of this we should publish this report.
 
But nevertheless I think Mr.Lari will send you the report also by = e-mail,=20 for an easier dissemination.
 
The coordinates of the other architects = are:
 
 Architekt Prof. DI. M.arch = Georg W.=20 Reinberg
Lindengasse 39/10
A-1070 Wien
Tel.: 5248280
architekt.reinberg@aon...
 
Treberspurg & Partner       =            &nbs= p;           =20
Architekt DI Dr. Martin Treberspurg =20
Penzingerstrasse 58           =20
A- 1140 Wien           &nbs= p;           =20
Tel. 01 894 31 91 - 12     =20
Fax 01 894 31 91 - 15     =20
treberspurg@netway...
 
Architekt Mag. Alexander=20 Mandic
Mezibransk=E1 17/1592
CZ-110 00 Praha 1
Tel/Fax 00420 2 2221 2000
E-Mail: atw.architects.prague@iol...
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alois = Geisslhofer
Energieverwertungsagentur - the=20 Austrian Energy Agency (E.V.A.)
Otto-Bauer-Gasse 6
A-1060 Wien -=20 Vienna
Austria
Phone +43 (0)1 586 15 24 -33
Mobil: +43 (0) 664=20 4517559
Fax +43 (0)1 586 15 24 -40
e-mail: geisslhofer@eva....at
Intern= et=20 E.V.A.: http://www.eva.ac.at/
E.V.A.=20 E-Mail News: http://www.eva.ac.at/abo.htmat home:=20 aloisg@surfeu...
=
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Hollan" <jhollan@amper....muni.cz>
Cc: <schmidl@eva....at>; <lari@ping...>; <ruzickova@ceacr...>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: [Nlr-e]the Brno study on = Internet?

>
> =
> >=20 ----------
> > Von: Jan = Hollan[SMTP:JHOLLAN@AMPER...PED.MUNI.CZ]
>=20 > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juli 2001 21:05:01
> > An: = nlr-e@amper....muni.cz
> > = Cc:=20 schmidl@eva....at; lari@ping...;=20 ruzickova@ceacr...
> > = Betreff:=20 [Nlr-e]the Brno study on Internet?
> > Diese Nachricht wurde=20 automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet.
> >
> Thank = you very=20 much once more for the impressing presentation in Novy
> Liskovec = on=20 Tuesday 24.
>
> I believe it was a milestone in the = bilateral=20 cooperation and will turn
> into a milestone of the evolution of = the Czech=20 building standards.
>
> I wonder, if at least a part of the = very=20 interesting documents could be
> made available on Internet as=20 well.
>
> At least that part, which comprises the booklet. = Either=20 as pdf or as
> html+bitmaps. Even in its present German version -- = there=20 are at least two
> experts (teachers from the Tech Uni Brno) I = know, who=20 would surely
> much regret they did not been there, who read = German and=20 who would support
> the whole project. And surely a lot of = students would=20 be interested in it.
>
> If it would be possible to make = the=20 documents available in another formats
> as well (as those ones = used by=20 insiders making the projects by various
> CADs, I do not = understand them),=20 still better. In principle, it could be a
> restricted-access = site,=20 available only by login and password, to prevent
> an uncontrolled = spread=20 of information. Or is it a completely silly idea?
>
> I = would be=20 proud to make an Internet site for it on a computer I
> supervise, =
>   http://amper.ped.muni.cz
> =  at the=20 Fac. of Education of Masaryk Uni; there are at least 2 GB free = for
> that=20 purpose.
>
> It is the same computer where this = www-mailinglist=20 exists (I meant it for
> a public international communication over = this=20 project, however, it has
> remained empty up to now), and the = other,=20 members-only nrl-m as well. An
> advantage of the mailinglist = against=20 emailing to many addresses is, that
> the people who get the mail = can=20 modify their addresses and many other
> parameters themselves = (including=20 hiding the address and membership). And,
> of course, there is an = www=20 archive as well, so new members can easily read
> all previous=20 information.
>
> When I have established those two = mailinglist=20 last time, I have added
> there a couple of addresses I knew. It = should be=20 easy for anybody to add
> him(her)self by a browser, of course I = can do it=20 as well, if asked. I
> believe, communicating by those lists would = be a=20 preferable way for the
> working group.
>
> With best = regards,
> Jenik Hollan
>
> PS.
>  I am = sorry I=20 don't send this letter of appreciation to Martin Treberspurg
> and = Partners, knowing no addresses and being not successful with = altavista
>=20 this time.
>
>
>
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