<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Herbert,</div><div><br></div><div>the producer of the gravel needs a ÜA-certification (as a old national declaration in Austria) or (in future) a CE. At the moment the producer may decide which one he want to use but he can't use both at the same time. </div><div><br></div><div>In future the CE is the only declaration which is needed to sell most building products in Europe. If theres a producer of strawbales for building applications he also has to sign them with a CE.<br><br>Best,</div><div>Marcel<br><div><br></div><div>TVB Burgstaller</div><div>Lieslmoosstrasse 29</div><div>83417 Kirchanschöring</div><div><br></div><div>T: 0049-1578-7780808</div><div>Fax: 0049-3212-1442803</div><div><a href="mailto:marcel.burgstaller@istraw.de">marcel.burgstaller@istraw.de</a></div><div><a href="http://www.istraw.de">www.istraw.de</a> - straw based building solutions</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>Am 23.08.2014 um 19:27 schrieb asbn <<a href="mailto:asbn@baubiologie.at">asbn@baubiologie.at</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Christopher, dear Marcel<div><br></div><div>Its not so simple.</div><div>There are materials in the national building list, according to the country codes,</div><div>which naturally don't need a CE or other certification.</div><div>I can use gravel in my foundation and the one who sells me the gravel, </div><div>don't need a CE-certification.</div><div><br></div><div>According to the European building-regulations only</div><div>modules/assembled building-parts, which are planked on both sides,</div><div>need a CE-certification.</div><div>For straw-modules, which are not planked on both sides, there is no CE</div><div>(e.g. for EcoCocon-modules).</div><div><br></div><div>Also there is no CE-certification for straw as a building material.</div><div><br></div><div>But there are national and European tests, which lead in some countries</div><div>to an ETA or NTA. </div><div>If there is a building-strawbale, tested according to NTA or ETA, in your country</div><div>(like in Germany and Austria), some building officials tell you,</div><div>that you have to use these certified bales. But not all of them.</div><div><br></div><div>But if there is no national certification, you can build as most of the European countries,</div><div>by collecting as many tests as possible, to show, that straw bales are a safe, good and</div><div>common building-material all over the world.</div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>all the best</div><div>Herbert</div><div>-----------------</div><div>asbn - austrian strawbale network</div><div><a href="mailto:asbn@baubiologie.at">asbn@baubiologie.at</a></div><div><a href="http://www.baubiologie.at">www.baubiologie.at</a></div></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>Am 23.08.2014 um 19:07 schrieb Marcel Burgstaller:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Indeed, nearly every product selled in Europe needs a CE.<br><br>Best,<br>Marcel<br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">Am 23.08.2014 um 19:52 schrieb Christopher Fraser <<a href="mailto:chrisf@goop.org">chrisf@goop.org</a>>:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 20/08/14 12:27, <a href="mailto:strawbale-request@amper.ped.muni.cz">strawbale-request@amper.ped.muni.cz</a> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hello again and thank you Sven. These are great. We have the posters<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">already and the PDF?s are helpful but this inspector would like some<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sort of ETA and Ce markings for straw, which even here is impossible<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to deliver. Any help or suggestions would be helpful to be able to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">clear this up.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">So if it was a stone building would the inspector need CE markings for the stones?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Christopher.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">____________________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> European strawbale building discussion list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Send all messages to:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz">Strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archives, subscription options, etc:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale">http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">____________________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>____________________________________________________<br> European strawbale building discussion list<br><br>Send all messages to:<br><a href="mailto:Strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz">Strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz</a><br><br>Archives, subscription options, etc:<br><a href="http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale">http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale</a><br>____________________________________________________<br><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>____________________________________________________</span><br><span> European strawbale building discussion list</span><br><span></span><br><span>Send all messages to:</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz">Strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Archives, subscription options, etc:</span><br><span><a href="http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale">http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale</a></span><br><span>____________________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>