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Thx Olivier,<br>
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Here also other strawbale buildings of Werner Schmidt :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.atelierwernerschmidt.ch/de/stroh/strohbauten">http://www.atelierwernerschmidt.ch/de/stroh/strohbauten</a><br>
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Regarding what I wrote yesterday I would add this : if you want to
build an affordable house, you build a 1 level rectangular big bales
house, then the roof (flat or not), then the windows. Your building
is quickly built. <br>
<br>
I've quite often seen houses with the south walls completely covered
with windows. Generally the windows are bad quality windows with a
lot of air leaks. You get energy from the sun of course but during
the night you loose much more energy you get... If you want to do
the same with high quality windows it becomes really expensive. In
my house we put 3 high quality windows which are 2.2m high x 2m
width. This Monday was a shiny day (it happens sometimes in
Belgium) and at 1:00PM we had 21.5°C. This is really enough. We
don't need 27°C ! <br>
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Cheers<br>
<br>
Seb<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/01/13 00:29, OLIVER SWANN wrote:<br>
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<div><span>BBB in Switzerland <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://naturalhomes.org/maya.htm">http://naturalhomes.org/maya.htm</a></span></div>
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building discussions <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz"><strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz></a>
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Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 21:05<br>
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Re: [Strawbale] Strawbale house<br>
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<div> Hello Hubert (is Hubert your firstname ?),<br>
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I put your mail again in the european mailing list
because you only answered to me...<br>
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I completly agree with you. Indeed in Belgium there is
not only huge straw bale houses... <br>
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I've build our house as you'll do your's. As building
professional it is also a serious reference for the
potential customers. That 's why our house is looking
as a traditional german house (not really as a belgian
one ! ;-) <br>
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Some pictures of our house are available here : <br>
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Our house is not what I could call a low budget house.
I would also like to work on a low budget straw bale
house. But I don't want to sacrifice some important
points. <br>
<br>
The house should be :<br>
- really well insulated<br>
- airtight<br>
- using quality materials<br>
- ...<br>
<br>
I think the best solution is to reduce the surface,
simple architecture, put good windows on south (but not
too much and not too big because this is very
expensive), don't build mezzanine (you loose space), buy
second hands material, ...<br>
<br>
What do you mean with sheet calculation ? Budget,
thermic ?<br>
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Regarding BBB, I think it is interesting. I would like
to build one . It should be coool.<br>
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I know one place built with BB : <a
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href="http://www.gites-ligule.be/sonhistoire-mignault.php">http://www.gites-ligule.be/sonhistoire-mignault.php</a><br>
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Guest houses are built under a agriculture building. <br>
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Cheers<br>
<br>
Seb<br>
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<div class="yiv937277731MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Hello Sebastien, I read your mail </span></div>
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<div class="yiv937277731MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Dear Max and everybody, I'm living
in Belgium and would like to add a comment
regarding your remark. I don't think that
belgium strawbales houses are build only for the
wealthy folks. I'm personally building our
strawbales house and our architect is really
dealing with the budget. He is working with
"normal" people who can afford the medium price.
You have perhaps visited huge houses when you
came at the ESBG. They are not all like this ;-)
Here is my opinion about the strawbale building
and building in general. As a professional
builder (insulation, strawbales, earth plaster,
... ). I'm always trying to find the best
solution/product/quality to be able to propose
good material (and also nice ;-) to everybody. I
think everybody should be able to own a healthy
lovely house. My goal is of course to target the
main stream. I think In Belgium the main stream
is meanly looking for a house that is not really
different of the neighbourhood. We are not
looking for extravangant houses. It means that
we also have to show that this is possible to
build a strawbale houses that looks like a
traditional one. When I say we are building with
straw the people are generally thinking we are
going to live in a mega organic house. Our house
will be an important reference for my job.
That's why it will look like a traditional house
but with some details that will make the
difference anyway. For the next project, I'm
thinking about a low budget strawbale house for
(for example) a young couple and his child(ren)
familly... I would like to show it is possible
to build an affordable healthy low energy house.
But as André was writing and saying cheap,
quality and quick is not compatible... This is
thus important to take time to do the things in
the right way. Have a nice day (cloudy here
probably ;-) Cheers Sebastien Hubert</span></div>
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<div class="yiv937277731MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Have you a calculation of the
house?</span></div>
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lang="EN-US"><span style="">3.<span
style="font:7.0pt;"> </span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">What do you think about Big Bale
Building? ( Atelier Werner Schmidt )</span></div>
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lang="EN-US"><span style="">4.<span
style="font:7.0pt;"> </span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Is there any BBB in Belgium ( or F,
Lux, NL) </span></div>
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<div class="yiv937277731MsoNormal"><span
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