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<BR> > Are you looking for recipes for plaster? Houses to visit? People who work with strawbale?<BR>
Yes, all of the above - but in SA. I'm familiar with the N European way (built a small SB a few years back) but now I'm looking for the SA take on things.<BR>
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Thanks for the book suggestions. What's the title of your book?<BR>
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From: rikkinitzkin@earthlink...<BR>To: strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:06:55 +0200<BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Strawbale Digest, Vol 71, Issue 12<BR><BR>Hi, <BR>
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<DIV>I Have a LOT of information, but can you be more specific?</DIV>
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<DIV>Are you looking for recipes for plaster? Houses to visit? People who work with strawbale?</DIV>
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<DIV>Do you speak Spanish?</DIV>
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<DIV>By the way:</DIV>
<DIV>arcilla = clay</DIV>
<DIV>cal = lime</DIV>
<DIV>sand = arena</DIV>
<DIV>paja = straw</DIV>
<DIV>bales = bala, paca, alpaca, and the MOST common in South America is "Fardo"</DIV>
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<DIV>There are no books that speak specifically about SB in South America, but there are 3 books about SB in Spanish:</DIV>
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<LI> Mine (with maren Termens) can be bought on Amazon.com</LI>
<LI>Gernot Minkes´s SB book is translated (published in Uruguay)</LI>
<LI>a version of "Build it with Bales" (Matts Myrhman) is translated and published in Argentina</LI></UL>
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<DIV>if you can be more specific in your questions maybe I can give you more details.</DIV>
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<DIV>saludos, </DIV>
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<DIV>El 28/10/2011, a las 11:01, <A href="mailto:strawbale-request@amper.ped.muni.cz">strawbale-request@amper....muni.cz</A> escribió:</DIV><BR>
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Re: SB in South America (rafael alsina)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:39:35 +0000<BR>From: donald mchardy <fieryx@hotmail...><BR>To: <strawbale@amper....muni.cz><BR>Subject: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR>Message-ID: <DUB111-W66416D6195245257F734BFD6D20@phx...><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>oops! sorry ... should have been a new subject ... :-/<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi baleheads,<BR><BR>Anyone have any info or resources wrt SB in South America: Peru, Argentina, Chile, Ecuador etc?<BR><BR>I presume straw bales are easily come by, but lime mortar?<BR><BR>Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>FX<BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________ European strawbale building discussion list Send all messages to: Strawbale@amper....muni.cz Archives, subscription options, etc: http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale ____________________________________________________ <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <http://amper.ped.muni.cz/pipermail/strawbale/attachments/20111027/c2f7d436/attachment-0001.html><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:30:19 +0200<BR>From: rafael alsina <ralsina3@hotmail...><BR>To: <strawbale@amper....muni.cz><BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR>Message-ID: <DUB108-W6587C95141E94494D19F3F96D20@phx...><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR>strawbale in espa?ol is ALPACAS DE PAJA very common in all s america but in Mexico and Bolivia are thousands of houses,<BR>about the lime mortar, you can ask for ARCILLA, put arcilla, arena, cal, serrin and a bit of cemento,<BR>also use some PULPA DE NOPAL as glue in the water. Rafael.<BR><BR>From: fieryx@hotmail.com<BR>To: strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:39:35 +0000<BR>Subject: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>oops! sorry ... should have been a new subject ... :-/<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi baleheads,<BR><BR>Anyone have any info or resources wrt SB in South America: Peru, Argentina, Chile, Ecuador etc?<BR><BR>I presume straw bales are easily come by, but lime mortar?<BR><BR>Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>FX<BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________ European strawbale building discussion list Send all messages to: Strawbale@amper....muni.cz Archives, subscription options, etc: http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale ____________________________________________________ <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR><BR>____________________________________________________<BR> European strawbale building discussion list<BR><BR>Send all messages to:<BR>Strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR><BR>Archives, subscription options, etc:<BR>http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale<BR>____________________________________________________ <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <http://amper.ped.muni.cz/pipermail/strawbale/attachments/20111027/329484d2/attachment-0001.html><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:31:35 +0200<BR>From: rafael alsina <ralsina3@hotmail.com><BR>To: <strawbale@amper....muni.cz><BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR>Message-ID: <DUB108-W659A6F6C38E8E1D801F0AA96D20@phx...><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From: ralsina3@hotmail...<BR>To: strawbale@amper.ped.muni.cz<BR>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:30:19 +0200<BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>strawbale in espa?ol is ALPACAS DE PAJA very common in all s america but in Mexico and Bolivia are thousands of houses,<BR>about the lime mortar, you can ask for ARCILLA, put arcilla, arena, cal, serrin and a bit of cemento,<BR>also use some PULPA DE NOPAL as glue in the water. Rafael.<BR><BR>From: fieryx@hotmail...<BR>To: strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:39:35 +0000<BR>Subject: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>oops! sorry ... should have been a new subject ... :-/<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi baleheads,<BR><BR>Anyone have any info or resources wrt SB in South America: Peru, Argentina, Chile, Ecuador etc?<BR><BR>I presume straw bales are easily come by, but lime mortar?<BR><BR>Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>FX<BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________ European strawbale building discussion list Send all messages to: Strawbale@amper....muni.cz Archives, subscription options, etc: http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale ____________________________________________________ <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR><BR>____________________________________________________<BR> European strawbale building discussion list<BR><BR>Send all messages to:<BR>Strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR><BR>Archives, subscription options, etc:<BR>http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale<BR>____________________________________________________ <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR><BR>____________________________________________________<BR> European strawbale building discussion list<BR><BR>Send all messages to:<BR>Strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR><BR>Archives, subscription options, etc:<BR>http://amper.ped.muni.cz/mailman/listinfo/strawbale<BR>____________________________________________________ <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <http://amper.ped.muni.cz/pipermail/strawbale/attachments/20111027/110e91e2/attachment-0001.html><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:15:08 +0000<BR>From: donald mchardy <fieryx@hotmail...><BR>To: <strawbale@amper....muni.cz><BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR>Message-ID: <DUB111-W11473C832140E226C2C7C40D6D30@phx...><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR><BR>Rafael,<BR><BR>Thank you very much for that info, most helpful and encouraging. <BR><BR>... arcilla, arena, cal, serrin ... <BR><BR>There doesn't seem to be any info on the web about this, I presume one mixes the clay and sand together into the desired consistency, like cob or adobe?<BR><BR>Do you know of any websites or books which deal with SB in Sth America?<BR><BR>Thanks again<BR>D<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>strawbale in espa?ol is ALPACAS DE PAJA very common in all s america but in Mexico and Bolivia are thousands of houses,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>about the lime mortar, you can ask for ARCILLA, put arcilla, arena, cal, serrin and a bit of cemento,<BR>also use some PULPA DE NOPAL as glue in the water. Rafael.<BR><BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>... any info or resources wrt SB in South America ...<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span> </SPAN><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=ecxApple-tab-span></SPAN> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <http://amper.ped.muni.cz/pipermail/strawbale/attachments/20111028/eb994f09/attachment-0001.html><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:01:28 +0200<BR>From: rafael alsina <ralsina3@hotmail...><BR>To: <strawbale@amper....muni.cz><BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR>Message-ID: <DUB108-W17E62E36B464EAA4B7369D96D30@phx...><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR>I live in South Spain, Cadiz mountains and this is the way we do it, I mean<BR><BR>3 Sand arena<BR>3 Arcilla Clay <BR>3 Serrin Wood sourdust<BR>1 Cemento <BR>1 Cal White Hidroxid Calcium(old white paint in southern countries like Andalucia or Mexico.)<BR><BR>About the mucilago of <nopal, you need to chop 20 or 30 Nopal Leaves into a water deposit, leave them for 1 day, and then use the water to make the Mix<BR>That mucilag is antiparasite, antibacterial and flexible, and make the mix very smooth and easy to aply even with the hands, and after dry, will give flesibility the wall surface, advoiding the craks. <BR>Al?so you can check onto www.casasdepaja.org (housesofstraw)<BR>good luck mate.<BR><BR>From: fieryx@hotmail.com<BR>To: strawbale@amper....muni.cz<BR>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:15:08 +0000<BR>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] SB in South America<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Rafael,<BR><BR><BR><BR>Thank you very much for that info, most helpful and encouraging. <BR><BR><BR><BR>... arcilla, arena, cal, serrin ... <BR><BR><BR><BR>There doesn't seem to be any info on the web about this, I presume one mixes the clay and sand together into the desired consistency, like cob or adobe?<BR><BR><BR><BR>Do you know of any websites or books which deal with SB in Sth America?<BR><BR><BR><BR>Thanks again<BR><BR>D<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>strawbale in espa?ol is ALPACAS DE PAJA very common in all s america but in Mexico and Bolivia are thousands of houses,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>about the lime mortar, you can ask for ARCILLA, put arcilla, arena, cal, serrin and a bit of cemento,<BR>also use some PULPA DE NOPAL as glue in the water. Rafael.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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