hello all ;-)<br><br>We at Cohabitat Group (Poland) soon will be preparing a proposal for hosting ESBG13 in Poland.<br>Organising Worldwide Cohabitat Gathering 2012 will be just a foretaste of the vision and <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">capabilities</span></span> we have for it. ;-))) Hold your chairs folks! :-)<br>
<br>By the way... if it comes to democratic and transparent work... please research a bettermeans platform...<a href="http://bettermeans.com/front/how.html">http://bettermeans.com/front/how.html</a> <br><br>I strongly inspire you to read whole website - it rocks! We will use this model to facilitate CHGathering organising process.<br>
<br>Best regards from nanoHabitat :-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/9/1 Max Vittrup Jensen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Max@permalot.org">Max@permalot...</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div>Dear Martin,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm unaware about who you are; seems that you mail below was written off the list?</div><div><br></div><div>I need to add that if you'll have a look at the ESBG conference program (<a href="http://www.slamenestavitelstvi.cz" target="_blank">www.slamenestavitelstvi.cz</a>), you'll recognize that this ESBG had a very differnet focus than self building; indeed the very successful pre-ESBG tour showed some quite hi-tech approaches for SB passive house building (But, no; Herbert didn't feel like participating).</div>
<div><br></div><div>And no; PermaLot's proposal was never suggested in DK, it was first offered after the ESBG in Siben Linden, but Gigi insisted it should be in Belgium. In Belgium a series of people did as much as possible to prevent it coming to CZ, but eventually a majority of European SB people voted for PermaLot to host it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But worst of all in your mail; 'Should we reclaim authority'??? Back to the dark ages of a small insider group choosing among friends? Is this how things should be decided? The number one thing this ESBG was about was transparency and inclusion. From insuring diversity of countries, surveys, openness of information to the lack of 'sheep-hearding' at the workshops and participatory events. I do believe this is 2 trademarks of the SB development, unfortunately trademarks which a series of people prefer to ignore.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So lets dare to ask the 640 or so Straw balers on this list: Are there anyone of you interested in taking on this task?</div><div><br></div><div>All I have to add is that we did receive one offer from <span style="font-family:Arial">Bane M. Prvanović</span> to host ESBG 2013 in Serbia.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Max</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Dear Herbert, dear all,<br>
><br>
> thanks for Herberts mail. The thread has been a bit lost.?I guess already<br>
> since Belgium.?Self-builders are very well on their way and will continue to<br>
> do so. Actually?Max's proposal for a gathering in CZ had been already denied<br>
> at the gathering in Denmark.<br>
><br>
> So shall we sort of reclaim some sort of authority for an organizing committe,<br>
> what would be the message for a next gathering, possibly more in form of a<br>
> symposium? I would like to see?strawbale-constructions will represent itself<br>
> to the large public as one of the ready solutions to the energy and CO2<br>
> crisis.<br>
><br>
> Best wishes,<br>
><br>
> Martin<br>
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