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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Dear Jure,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Reconsider again tha option '<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> I am reconsidering to use wooden boards for the
bales fixation on the outer side of the wooden structure (to gain better
breathability)'<FONT face=Tahoma size=2> , maybe fire inspectors will have
some remarks on that.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Bane M. Prvanovic</DIV>
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<DIV>GPB Solutions d.o.o.<BR>Celopecka 8<BR>11000 Beograd</DIV>
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<DIV>t / f +381 11 386 23 29<BR>m + 381 60 711 0 211<BR><A
href="http://www.dragongpb.com">www.dragongpb.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jure.pozar@gmail... href="mailto:jure.pozar@gmail...">Jure
Požar</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=strawbale@amper....muni.cz
href="mailto:strawbale@amper....muni.cz">European strawbale building
discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Strawbale] 1. Re: Europe's
largest strawbale building (Sport Hotel, Jure Pozar)</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Bane,</DIV>
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<DIV>I have visited this house a while ago and at first impression I really
liked it. When taking a better look at it, I found possible future problems.
The straw in between the beams is very loose (not compressed very well). You
can easily put your hand through it/possible future problem with thermal
bridging, or at least bad/uneven isolation). They might still be working on
it, so they might improve this, but it is very hard to compress straw into
triangles and have relatively flat walls on both sides. We were also thinking
about making triangle bales for such spaces, but we came to conclusion that
this structure is not suitable for our climate: hot summers and cold winters
and lots of wind: as wood is not the perfect isolation (read not isolation at
all) there would is a thermal bridge at every post, as there is much poorer
isolation. I am not sure if this structure is good for Kobarid region (they
don`t have so much wind, but they have low temperatures in the winter as
well). I agree that this structure is the most material and cost efficient and
it also looks nice, but after having second thoughts I came to conclusion that
this is not what I want to do. I want to have a house which is isolated very
well. The timber company which does post & beam structures is a family
with 3 generations of expirience and their own wood production. They have made
lots of houses and they have very good references. They make celulouse fill
for isolation and plastic fascade. They use OSB plates all the time and no
problems have occured so far related to mold/moisture. Of course straw is a
different matter, but I guess if ventilated very well to the outside it
should work fine. I am reconsidering to use wooden boards for the bales
fixation on the outer side of the wooden structure (to gain better
breathability). Thank you for all the info and hints Bane.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2010/11/27 Bane M. Prvanovic <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:house@beocity...">house@beocity...</A>></SPAN><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Reply for Mr. Jure Pozar:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Dear Jure, here is one example of what you
spoked about (post/beams/diagonal timber):</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT><IMG alt="" hspace=0
src="cid:001501cb8efc$802b8670$0202a8c0@gpbmain" align=baseline
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>The builder is Janez Velkavrh, our customer
near Ljubljana. He is very pleasant, not a professional straw-bale
builder, but according to my communication with him, I got a picture of a
real nice men who could be willing to share his experience with straw-bale
building with you. As you can see on the picture, he also had a lot of
diagonal timbers which are crucial for structure stability, but had enough
patience (and working hands) to do excellent and amazing job. My opinion is
that this is the best (and cheapest) way to buld wooden structure home with
walls of straw-bales. I didn't spoke with him about floors, but I think he
didn't isolate it with straw-bales. However, according to last three
drawings you posted, you will never have any problem with the straw-bale
moisture in the floor, because it is - uh - like
ventilated.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Regarding to your budget, I think that 150.000
is way too enough to finish structure like on the plan, just be very
carefull with picking cotractor or wooden structure subcontractor, and you
will be fine. Maybe Mr. Janez had good contractor or subcontractor, so he
can refere you to one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Here is Mr. Janez's contact:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Janez Velkavrh</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Stara cesta 34</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>1354 Horjul (Ljubljana)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>His telephone numbers are registered, so ask
Informations to get one (I did the same way). Be free to bespeak my personal
best regards to Mr. Janez, and I think he will be willing to answer any
question you need. V Slovenščini bosta lahko pogovarjala o vseh Vaših
težav in vprašanjih...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Bane M. Prvanovic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>GPB Solutions d.o.o.<BR>Celopecka 8<BR>11000
Beograd</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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211<BR></FONT><A href="http://www.housefasade.com/" target=_blank><FONT
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clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Jure Požar dipl. org. tur. / general manager<BR><BR>HOTEL
SPORT & Biking in Notranjska<BR>Kolodvorska c. 1,
Postojna<BR>Slovenia<BR>Tel.: 00386 5 720 22 44<BR>Fax: 00386 5 720 22
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