re:straw bales Spain<div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for your replies, I will take a look at the recommended websites.</div><div><br></div><div>I am going to be building my SB house close to Alicante (about 40km inland), I think I have found my plot of land and have a couple of architects lined up who are interested in my project.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My husband is hoping to do a lot of the work himself but at the moment we are trying to gather as much information to help us as possible.</div><div><br></div><div>Has anyone got a rough break down of the costs involved in building a SB house?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gracias</div><div><br></div><div>Sarah</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/12/17 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:strawbale-request@amper....muni.cz">strawbale-request@amper.ped.muni.cz</a>></span><br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:16:34 +0100<br>Subject: [Strawbale] straw bale in Spain<br>At the moment, there has been no dificulty getting permission to build legally in Spain. You have to go through the same process as any other home. Here in Spain, this requires having the signature of an Architect and a Technical architect. Since they take "responsability" for the design it usually gets approved. The problem, is that there are very few architects with any SB experience, and "newbies" tend to be a bit afraid and make very conservative designs not necessarily thinking in a "straw" way...It is not a cheap process.<br>
<br>
The other possibility is to ask in your local area what the requirements/limitations are for building a "caseta de campo" (a shed), which can sometimes be done without an architect, but the requirements can vary from town to town, being possible something anywhere from 9m2 to 35 m2 depending on where you live.<br>
<br>
There are now quite a few legal SB homes in spain, including a Bed and Breakfast in the province of Teruel. There are both loadbearing and Infill buildings legal.<br>
<br>
What is more difficult is insuring the building, but if you are planning on building it yourself you are not required to insure it, although you cannot sell it until after 10 years (the minimum insurance for new homes)...A very few homes have been able to be insured, but only Infill buildings, not loadbearing.<br>
<br>
It is VERY helpful to learn Spanish if you wish to be able to work with anything legal in Spain.<br>
<br>
Rikki Jennifer Nitzkin<br>
Coordinator of the Spanish Strawbale Network (<a href="http://www.casasdepaja.org" target="_blank">www.casasdepaja.org</a>)<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100<br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
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Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
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As far as I know the best place to look for straw bales is the Guadalajara region.They have them of good quality and quantity, but you'll have to look and shop around for good consistency.<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100<br>
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To: <a href="mailto:strawbale@amper....muni.cz" target="_blank">strawbale@amper....muni.cz</a><br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:00 +0100<br>
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Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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Where are you planning on building as bales are available in most areas of Spain. What you might want to do is to talk to local farmers and ask them to set their baler to make them more dense than they normally would. I know somebody who did that in Aragon (Prov Teruel) and was very happy with the results. I am planning to build also in Prov Teruel but near the border with Cataluna and have been doing a bit of bale research if that would be useful to you.<br>
Some areas where there are large areas put down to wheat make those giant round bales mostly, but you can usually find a farmer or two using the traditional baler. Basically if you have the time, talking to people before the harvest, and explaining what are looking for is a big bonus.<br>
Good luck, and be in touch if I can be any help.<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100<br>
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Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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Hi<br>
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If you speak Spanish <a href="http://www.casasdepaja.org/" target="_blank">http://www.casasdepaja.org/</a> is a good site.<br>
<br>
Building straw bale legally in Spain is difficult because the material<br>
is not been approved by the national architects association. (or had<br>
not been in 2006 when I last checked)<br>
<br>
I think that a couple of legal straw bale buildings have been approved<br>
individually but it is an expensive process.<br>
<br>
Building illegally in hidden away places is possible and much more<br>
common for straw bale in Spain.<br>
<br>
Spanish building and planning law is different than UK (not better or<br>
worse just different) and it helps to understand it.<br>
<br>
If any one has more up to date info on approval of SB is Spain I would<br>
very much like to know as I want to do a legal SB build in Spain.<br>
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Patrick<br>
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Quoting Sarah Phillips <<a href="mailto:sarah@eticas..." target="_blank">sarah@eticas...</a>>:<br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
<br>
Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:54:24 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] straw bale in Spain<br><br>
Rikki<br>
<br>
Thanks for some more up to date information. My problem in 2006 was finding an architect who would sign off a load bearing self build, SB building.<br>
The architect that I was working with was keen but would only use technical infomation from the regional body.<br>
<br>
Dos anyone have a list of informed architects?<br>
<br>
Patrick<br>
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Quoting Rikki Nitzkin <<a href="mailto:rikkinitzkin@earthlink..." target="_blank">rikkinitzkin@earthlink...</a>>:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
At the moment, there has been no dificulty getting permission to build<br>
legally in Spain. You have to go through the same process as any other<br>
home. Here in Spain, this requires having the signature of an<br>
Architect and a Technical architect. Since they take "responsability"<br>
for the design it usually gets approved. The problem, is that there<br>
are very few architects with any SB experience, and "newbies" tend to<br>
be a bit afraid and make very conservative designs not necessarily<br>
thinking in a "straw" way...It is not a cheap process.<br>
<br>
The other possibility is to ask in your local area what the<br>
requirements/limitations are for building a "caseta de campo" (a<br>
shed), which can sometimes be done without an architect, but the<br>
requirements can vary from town to town, being possible something<br>
anywhere from 9m2 to 35 m2 depending on where you live.<br>
<br>
There are now quite a few legal SB homes in spain, including a Bed and<br>
Breakfast in the province of Teruel. There are both loadbearing and<br>
Infill buildings legal.<br>
<br>
What is more difficult is insuring the building, but if you are<br>
planning on building it yourself you are not required to insure it,<br>
although you cannot sell it until after 10 years (the minimum<br>
insurance for new homes)...A very few homes have been able to be<br>
insured, but only Infill buildings, not loadbearing.<br>
<br>
It is VERY helpful to learn Spanish if you wish to be able to work<br>
with anything legal in Spain.<br>
<br>
Rikki Jennifer Nitzkin<br>
Coordinator of the Spanish Strawbale Network (<a href="http://www.casasdepaja.org" target="_blank">www.casasdepaja.org</a>)<br>
<a href="mailto:casasdepaja@yahoo..." target="_blank">casasdepaja@yahoo.es</a><br>
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Queremos Vivir"<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100<br>
From: "Sarah Phillips" <<a href="mailto:sarah@eticas..." target="_blank">sarah@eticas...</a>><br>
Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
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Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:34:10 +0000<br>
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Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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Hello,<br>
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As far as I know the best place to look for straw bales is the<br>
Guadalajara region.They have them of good quality and quantity, but<br>
you'll have to look and shop around for good consistency.<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100<br>
From: <a href="mailto:sarah@eticas..." target="_blank">sarah@eticas...</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:strawbale@amper....muni.cz" target="_blank">strawbale@amper....muni.cz</a><br>
Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
<br>
I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:00 +0100<br>
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Where are you planning on building as bales are available in most<br>
areas of Spain. What you might want to do is to talk to local<br>
farmers and ask them to set their baler to make them more dense than<br>
they normally would. I know somebody who did that in Aragon (Prov<br>
Teruel) and was very happy with the results. I am planning to build<br>
also in Prov Teruel but near the border with Cataluna and have been<br>
doing a bit of bale research if that would be useful to you.<br>
Some areas where there are large areas put down to wheat make those<br>
giant round bales mostly, but you can usually find a farmer or two<br>
using the traditional baler. Basically if you have the time, talking<br>
to people before the harvest, and explaining what are looking for is<br>
a big bonus.<br>
Good luck, and be in touch if I can be any help.<br>
<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:23 +0100<br>
From: <a href="mailto:sarah@eticas..." target="_blank">sarah@eticas...</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:strawbale@amper....muni.cz" target="_blank">strawbale@amper....muni.cz</a><br>
Subject: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
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Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>
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Hi<br>
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If you speak Spanish <a href="http://www.casasdepaja.org/" target="_blank">http://www.casasdepaja.org/</a> is a good site.<br>
<br>
Building straw bale legally in Spain is difficult because the material<br>
is not been approved by the national architects association. (or had<br>
not been in 2006 when I last checked)<br>
<br>
I think that a couple of legal straw bale buildings have been approved<br>
individually but it is an expensive process.<br>
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Building illegally in hidden away places is possible and much more<br>
common for straw bale in Spain.<br>
<br>
Spanish building and planning law is different than UK (not better or<br>
worse just different) and it helps to understand it.<br>
<br>
If any one has more up to date info on approval of SB is Spain I would<br>
very much like to know as I want to do a legal SB build in Spain.<br>
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Patrick<br>
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Quoting Sarah Phillips <<a href="mailto:sarah@eticas..." target="_blank">sarah@eticas...</a>>:<br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
<br>
Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: valentina <<a href="mailto:valentina@ara-b...">valentina@ara-b...</a>><br>To: European strawbale building discussions <<a href="mailto:strawbale@amper....muni.cz">strawbale@amper....muni.cz</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:46:30 +0100<br>Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Straw bales in Spain<br>One very good thing in Spain (catalunya-valencia) is that you can find rice-straw that is a good quality of straw for building<br>
Every year the quality change....because of different growth-water in the field...so you really must check your supplier year by year..<br>
At the moment there are no expert supplier as you can find in germany....but we are working at the european level to set a sistem of local certification...<br>
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We made already 4 legal-houses and1little community building....to do so we use information of tests from other country and a lot of talks with pubblic officers...<br>
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Now the law of building has change and in a way is a better change for straw bale because allows much more innovation...on the other hand the pubblic offcials ara more insecure because they still don't know the new procedures...so they are more careful and ask for much more accuracy....<br>
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For insurance...if you use a wood structure or another "traditional" structure you can get insurance.....the simple one...if you want the insurance that allows you to sell the house before ten years have been passed...than you have much more trouble and you may need to go trough a quiet complex procedure of testing and controls....<br>
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un saludo, valentina<br>
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arq. valentina maini<br>
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t.f. +34 933197631<br>
ronda sant pere 58, pralB 08010 barcelona<br>
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El 16/12/2008, a las 18:33, Sarah Phillips escribió:<br>
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I am thinking of building a straw bale house in Spain.<br>
<br>
Does anyone know how easy it is to get good quality bales here?<br>
<br>
Any other advice much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
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