[Strawbale] RE: Strawbale Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2

Mon Jul 9 18:06:07 CEST 2007

I have just gotten a letter from Cristopher Ripley
criticalperspective at mac... who is building with straw in Portugal (I don't
know where exactly) and we have a member of the Spanish Strawbale Network in
Portugal: Pedro Alvez de Abreu  914 85 4458  abreu at oninet... , although I am
not sure if he speaks English or not.  I also don't know if he has built yet
or not...

I used to have more contacts in Portugal but lost them all in a computer
disaster...sorry.  I believe Barbara Jones had some contacts in Portugal as
well....

As for contacts in the Southwest of Spain, we have quite a few members in
Cadiz and Malaga...you can find the contacts organized by Province in the
section "Presentación/Listado de Miembros" in the web www.casasdepaja.com 

Take care,  

Rikki Nitzkin
Aulás, Lleida, España
rikkinitzkin at earthlink...
(0034)657 33 51 62 
www.casasdepaja.com (Red de Construcción con Balas de Paja)

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> Asunto: Strawbale Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2
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>    1. R: [Strawbale] Straw Bale - Algarve, Portugal
>       (Prof. Enrico Spacone)
>    2.  load bearing in the Algarve (peter weijnen)
>    3. Re:  load bearing in the Algarve (Andr? de Bouter)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:44:06 +0200
> From: "Prof. Enrico Spacone" <espacone at unich...>
> Subject: R: [Strawbale] Straw Bale - Algarve, Portugal
> To: "'European strawbale building discussions'"
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> Hi Michelle,
> Personally, I do not like reinforced concrete frames + strawbale infills.
> It
> defies the purpose of the strawbale construction. I do not think the south
> of Spain is a seismic area, so why not a load-bearing structure? Find a
> structural engineer or an architect who can talk to the building officials
> and show to them that a load bearing strawbale structure has no problem.
> Good luck
> Enrico
> 
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: strawbale-bounces at amper....muni.cz
> [mailto:strawbale-bounces at amper....muni.cz] Per conto di Chug
> Inviato: sabato 30 giugno 2007 11.46
> A: European strawbale building discussions
> Oggetto: Re: [Strawbale] Straw Bale - Algarve, Portugal
> 
> Hi Michelle
> 
> I suggest getting in touch with
> http://www.casasdepaja.com/ .
> 
> warm regards
> Chug
> chug at strawbale-building....uk
> http://www.strawbale-building.co.uk/
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TD Michelle Mattesini" <Michelle.Mattesini at EF...>
> To: <strawbale at amper....muni.cz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:04 AM
> Subject: [Strawbale] Straw Bale - Algarve, Portugal
> 
> 
> Hello
> 
> We are desperate to build a straw-bale house in Moncarapacho in the East
> Algarve, Portugal. Does anybody know of any straw bale homes in the
> Algarve
> or nearby in South-West Spain. We have an architect open to the idea and
> will be building a cement structural frame to meet building codes but need
> any local information there is please...such as where to buy the
> straw/experience with local councils etc.
> 
> Many thanks
> Michelle
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> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:17:34 +0000
> From: "peter weijnen" <peter_weijnen at hotmail...>
> Subject: [Strawbale] load bearing in the Algarve
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> I would not think its advisible to build load bearing in the Algarve. Its
> has got its sismic activity every now and then, and one of the big
> earth-quakes of man-kind,Lisbon 1755 has its origin in a fault not very
> far
> away from Ponta de Sagres.
> I will be going on holiday in the area soon.
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> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:05:49 +0200
> From: Andr? de Bouter <forum at lamaisonenpaille...>
> Subject: Re: [Strawbale] load bearing in the Algarve
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> For more information on design considerations in seismic areas read
> "Design of SB Buildings" by Bruce King.
> 
> Although I'm really not a fan of 'masonry-post and beam' it might be
> difficult to find an alternative in Portugal. In Andalusia I
> participated in the build of a sb house. A carpenter was found to build
> the post and beam structure but he had clearly never built a post and
> beam structure before in his life as almost all construction in that
> region is done with masonry (even roof structures!). An alternative
> could be to have a carpenter come from a more nordic country.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> André de Bouter
> www.lamaisonenpaille.com
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> peter weijnen a écrit :
> > I would not think its advisible to build load bearing in the Algarve.
> > Its has got its sismic activity every now and then, and one of the big
> > earth-quakes of man-kind,Lisbon 1755 has its origin in a fault not
> > very far away from Ponta de Sagres.
> > I will be going on holiday in the area soon.
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