[DSLF] Digest Number 1865

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There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Success stories show public testimony's clout
           From: "britelitesout" <CHJINA@AOL...>
      2. Energy efficiency as a way to reduce light pollution / French Version
           From: "Chloe Legris" <chloe_leg@hotmail...>
      3. Re: Energy efficiency as a way to reduce light pollution / French Version
           From: Darren Baskill <dbl@star....ac.uk>
      4. Rethinking IDA
           From: patric <patric@ghostriders...>
      5. Re: Rethinking IDA
           From: Patrice Scattolin <scattol@videotron...>


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Message: 1         
   Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:32:46 -0000
   From: "britelitesout" <CHJINA@AOL...>
Subject: Success stories show public testimony's clout

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20060122/NEWS03/601220344/1001/NEWS





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Message: 2         
   Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:59:13 -0500
   From: "Chloe Legris" <chloe_leg@hotmail...>
Subject: Energy efficiency as a way to reduce light pollution / French Version


For those who can read french, here's the web site where an official 
document is published regarding energy efficiency in outdoor lighting. It's 
not an extended document, but it was made for the Energy Agency of Quebec in 
order to underline the real necessity to move on a better management in 
outdoor lighting. Any comments are welcome.

www.aee.gouv.qc.ca/municipalites/eclairage/eclairage.jsp  Click on the PDF 
document.


Chloé Legris

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Message: 3         
   Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:36:42 +0000 (GMT)
   From: Darren Baskill <dbl@star....ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Energy efficiency as a way to reduce light pollution / French Version

Re:  Chloe's links in French

  This is off topic (Google translations), but will make it easier for
everyone to read on-topic material!  (e.g. Chloe's french papers)



http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=fr|en&u=http://www.aee.gouv.qc.ca/municipalites/eclairage/eclairage.jsp

  Does an impressively decent translation (for a computer) of the page
Chloe was refering to.


 Basically, use:
http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=en|fr&u=http://www.....

  The useful bit is "langpair=X|Y", where you are translating from X to Y
(whichever languages that may be), and just add the required webpage at
the end.


e.g. The British Campaign for Dark Skies website index can be seen in
French via:
http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=en|fr&u=//www.britastro.org/dark-skies/fullindex.html


  For PDF's...  If you search for a pdf webpage, Google will give you the
option of displaying it in html, and then you translate that html
version.  e.g. (again, from Chloe's previous email)

http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=fr|en&u=http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:www.aee.gouv.qc.ca/pdf/municipalites/efficacite_eclairage.pdf



  I've deliberatly kept the links long, so people can modify them to
include their own webpages in their prefered languages.


All the best,

Das



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Message: 4         
   Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:11:39 -0600
   From: patric <patric@ghostriders...>
Subject: Rethinking IDA

JESSIE MURRAY wrote:
> it's about time to come out with the 
> financial data showing the cost savings in various cities that have switched 
> to good neighbor lighting, especially places like Tuscon etc.


My community is practically a mirror image of Tucson in terms of 
population, area, and number of streetlights, so this information would 
be of *immense* value.
Ive gotten a range of figures (all in the millions of dollars) from 
various sources, but real credibility comes from citing an authoritative 
source (of which the IDA could still be considered).

I need this information, and I need it today.
Who other than the IDA can the sea of scattered activists and concerned 
civic leaders look to for this information?  The Board's MLO has 
distracted IDA from it's core purpose, and has left it's membership 
dismayed and betrayed.  How about turning that around with a new 
Information Sheet with some cold, hard numbers on whether or not this is 
all really worth it?




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Message: 5         
   Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:24:48 -0500
   From: Patrice Scattolin <scattol@videotron...>
Subject: Re: Rethinking IDA

patric wrote:

>JESSIE MURRAY wrote:
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>>it's about time to come out with the 
>>financial data showing the cost savings in various cities that have switched 
>>to good neighbor lighting, especially places like Tuscon etc.
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Here's the City of Calgary's web page:

http://content.calgary.ca/CCA/City+Hall/Business+Units/Roads/Street+Lights/Envirosmart+Street+Light+Retrofit+Program.htm

It does have numbers and explanation. They probably aren't detailed 
enought for someone to lift them an apply the formula to your own town 
but it gives a good idea of what was done.

-- 
Patrice Scattolin

Management is doing things right; leadership is doing the right things. - Peter F. Drucker




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